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  1. Mahen

    Mahen `тм ρяιηcεss` Super Moderator

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    ye jo Ilm-e-ghaib ko leker behas chal rahi hai mujhe nahi samjh me aya k means kya ho rahi hai ...

    ilm e ghaib se muraad kya hai ? (future k barey me maloomat) ?

    yahan jo behas ho rahi hai shyd wo ye k ek taraf kaha ja raha hai k nabi pak k pas ilm e ghaib tha aur ek taraf kaha ja raha hai k nahi tha ...

    @Abidi kya aap ne ye kehna chaha tha k Allah ki marzi k bina ilm e ghaib tha? (mera to nahi khayal k aesa kaha ho aap ne )

    and @ baqi others jo aitaraz kar rahai hain kya un ka kehna ye hai k Allah ne nabi pak ko future k barey me kuch nahi bataya tha ? ya Nabi pak ne ummat ko future k barey me kuch nahi bataya tha?

    @S_ChiragH @hoorain @Abidi
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    @Abidi bhai aapka wo commentment mere liye nahin tha
    to ghalatfehmi ke liye maazrat.....magar wo post parhne
    se mujhe aise hi laga ke mere baare me hai kyunke ilm e ghaib
    pe fatwa diya gaya aapki in baaton se aise laga tha

    aur @cutepoison janab aalim ul ghaib hone ka matlab hai

    tamam jahanon ka mukammal ilm hona kya ho chuka

    kya ho raha hai kya hone wala hai kab koun kya chahta hai

    har baat se har muaamle se bakhabar hona....aisa nahin hai

    ke RasoolALLAH saww per ghaib ke mutaliq wahi nahin ki gaiy

    wahi ke zariye jannat dozakh unse pichle Anbiya a.s ka haal

    jese Rasool e kareem saww per wahi ki gaiy waise hi tamaam

    Anbiya o Rusul a.s per ghaib se ilm wahi ki gaiy aur bohot

    se ehmaq is sabab unhen aalim ul ghaib hi maanne lagte hain

    aur unke aqal me ye baat to nahin aati ke RasoolALLAH saww

    per jitna ilm wahi se aaya wo unhone phir hum tak bhi

    pohnchaya agar wahi ke sabab unhen aalimul ghaib kaha

    jaaye to ehl e ins aur jin bhi aalim ul ghaib ho gaye ??

    Nahin aisa nahin aur Rasool e kareem saww ne khud

    bohot se muamlaat me farmaya ke is mutaliq mujhe ilm hota

    to me wo amal karta aur eik aur sochne ki baat ye ke agar

    unke paas mukammal ghaib ka ilm hota to wahi ki zarurat

    Rusul a.s ko hoti hi kis liye ?? Jabke wo har cheez se waqif hi hote

    ke kab unhen ALLAH PAK kya karwana chahte hain kab kya

    hone wala hai

    ALLAH PAK hum sub ko ISLAM ki sahi samajh naseeb kare Aameen
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  4. Abidi

    Abidi ~I AM ANTI ESTABLISHMENT~ Super Star

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    jee bhai iss thread main ilme ghaib ke koi behas nahi chal rahi thee,yahan ye behas chal rahi thee k ma ne jo ashaar share kiyay hain wo shirkiyan hain ya nahi?
    Ilme ghaib ka zikar ma ne riraf aik example k tour pe kiya,uss k bad @S_ChiragH bro ne ilme ghaib k hawala se kafi bari post ke to ma ne issi lie usska jawab nahi diya tha k ye thread apnay asal topic se na hatt jae,
    baqi ma ne aj tak ye kabi nahi kaha k Allah ke marzi k baghair ilme ghaib thaa(Nouzubillah)
    ma hamesha yehi kehta hun k Allah Taala ne Nabi-e-Pak(S.A.W) ko ilme ghaib ataa kiya.
    Anyway ma mazeed iss behas main nahi parna chahta aur iss thread k topic k lehaz se aap se b request karun ga k hadiya-e darud-o-naat paish kejiyay,
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  5. Abidi

    Abidi ~I AM ANTI ESTABLISHMENT~ Super Star

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    "Ab mery nigaahon main jachta nahi koi
    jaisay meray sarkar hain,aisa nahi koi
    tum sa to haseen aankh ne dekha nahi koi
    ye shan e latafat ha k saya nahi koi
    (SALLALAHO ALEKA WASALLAM)
  6. Jahil

    Jahil Banned

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    yar abidi bro maine apki tamam threads main takreeban sab hi posting read ki hai ap bohot khokli baaten karte ho aisi baaten ke jin main koi wazn hi nhi hota ab mera masla yeh hai ke muje hamesha aise hi logon se behes karne main maza ata hai jin se thora boht seekhne ko mil jata hai lekin apki baton main boht zyada tazaad mojod hota hai thats y us thread main b maine DOn bro ka hi msg qoute krlya tha lekin is thread main apne khud muje tagg kr ke invite kya to phir mera haq banta hai apki baaton main paye jane wale tazaad ko point out karne ka

    1... sab se pehle to main apki is posting ke bare main kehna chahonga ke agar apko chiragh bro ki janib se pesh ki jane wali Qurani ayaton se koi shikayat nhi thi to phir apne muftiyon per woh thread kyun banaya?

    2... agar apne woh thread chiragh bro ki wajah se nhi balke Hooain ki wajah se banaya hai to maine hoorain or apke darmiyan hone wali tamaam posting read karli hai ap mujhe bata sakte hain ke hoorain ne aisi konsi ahadeesen ya Qurani ayaton ke hawale se apko fatwe de dye jo apne unko mufti ka laqab de ker unki shaan barhane ke lye thread bana lya?

    3... agar ap yeh kehte hain ke chiragh bro ne jo Qurani ayaten pesh ki hain woh bilkol theek hain or un ayaton se aap ittifaq karte hain to phir ap yeh tasleem karte hain ke Rasool Allah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam Alim ul Ghaib nhi the?

    4... or agar aap yeh tasleem nhi karte ke Muhammad ul Rasool Allah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam Alim ul Ghaib nhi the to phir ap aisi ahadeesen or aisi Ayaten kyun pesh nhi karte ke jinse yeh sabit hojai ke Muhammad ul Rasool Allah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam Ghaib ka ilm jante the?

    5... agar ap woh ahadeesen or woh Qurani ayaaten sirf isliye share nhi karte ke ap aalim nahi hain mufti nahi hain to phir ilm na hone per or mufti na hone per ap ek dusre mufti ko kaise criticize kar sakte hain? jabke ap jante hi nhi ke woh jo bayan kar rha hai woh thik b hai ke ghalt? kyunke heere ki pehchan to ek jawaahir hi kar sakta hai ke aya yeh heera asli hai ya naqli hai

    6... or agar aap yeh kehte ho ke aap khud bhi mufti ho islaam ke baare main ilm rakhte ho to phir chiragh bro ya dusre logon(jinhe ap mufti samjhte ho) ki tarha Quran o hadees sunane ke bajai unke khilaf thread laga ker ghussa kyun nikaalte ho?

    7... or agar ap Quran o hadees Na sunane ki wajah yeh batate ho ke aj kal ap mobile se online hote ho isliye un ahadeeson ko ya un Qurani ayaton ko mobile se type nhi kar paate to aap is thread ke sath sath apna mufti wala thread b check karen or dekhen ke apne takreeban hr user ko hi uski posting per reply likhen hain balke boht bare bare replies likhe hain to phir ek choti si hadees or ek choti si ayat likhne main aisi kya problm hojati hai jo itna bare bare threads or itni bari bari posting likhne main nhi hoti?

    8... or akhri baat main yeh kehna chahonga ke mufti wale thread main apne ek boht hi ajeeb baat likhi thi ke yeh log to un farishton per bhi shirk ka fatwa laga denge jin farishton ne ALLAH KE HUKUM se hazrat Adam aleh salam ko sajda kya tha to yeh baat to apne khud hi tasleem karli hai ke farishton ki hazrat Adam aleh salam ko sajda karne ki wajah ALLAH KA HUKUM tha
    to qabron mazaron or deegar azeem hastiyon ko sajda karne main ALLAH KA HUKUM mojod hai ya yeh apki apni marzi hai?agar ALLAH KA HUKUM mojod hai to plz woh hukum batayen or agar ALLAH KA HUKUM mojod nahi hai to phir kya ap in muftiyon se b bare mufti hain jo islaam main apni marzi se koi b amal shamil kar ke usko jaiz qarar de dete hain?

    to dear abidi bhai mera us thread main ap ko koi masg na krne ki or DOn bro ka msg quote karne ki wajah sirf apki postings main paaye jane wale yeh tazaad hain jo muje apki baton se mutmain nhi hone dete aap plz mere in 8 tazaad ko clear karden phir inshAllah age baat hogi lekin apse sirf ek guzarish hai ke ap in 8 tazaad ke munsifana javab na dena chahen to na di jiyega lekin khuda ke waaste mujh per bhi mufti ka label chipka ker mere khilaf b koi thread na bana li jiyega

    jesa ap pichli 2 martaba muftiyon ke jawab na dene ki surat main ane wale ghusse ki wajah se unke khilaf threads bana kar majority ki hamdardi hasil karne ki koshish kar chuke hain
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  7. Abidi

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    ma ne aap se siraf 1 mukhtisar sawal ka jawab manga,magar aap ne usska jawab denay ke bijaaey aagay se itnay saray sawal kar diyay halankay mera sawal b aapkay aik tazad se mutalqa he tha,chalain chorain aur iss thread k topic k mutabiq hadiya-e darud ya naat paish kejiyay,
  8. Jahil

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    nahi nahi chorne ki kya zarorat hai yr afterall jis tarha maine apse sawal pochte time jawab ki ummeden lagayi thi ussi tarha apne b mujhse sawal pochte waqt mere jawab ki ummed lagayi hi hogi na so apke sawal ke jawab main main sirf yeh kehna chahonga ke
    insaan ki baat uski soochon ki akkasi karti hai
    ek insan wohi kuch bol sakta hai jo kuch woh soch sakta hai
    or jab ek insaan apni baaton se apni sochon ko zahir karde
    to yeh samjhne main zara b dair nhi lagti us baat ko karne ke peeche uski sooch kya rahi hogi
    to mere bhai maine bhi mukhtalif threads main apki baaten dekh ker or sirf un users ko apne saath mila ker un users ke hawale de ker ya un users ke naam bata ker ke jin users ke sath currently issues chal hain admins ke sath
    yaqin jaaniye mujhe to kya kisi insan ko b time nhi lage ga apki baaton ke peeche apka maqsad janne main

    ab plz meri baaton ke jawab di jiye
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    *SHB* Muhammad Shoaib Nasir Super Star

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    Please @DuFFer leave this topic .... kisi ko ghalat sabit kerney se koi faida nahi aur behas se sirf diloun mai nafrat peda hoti .... please @Abidi bro ke iss thread mai jis shaksiyat ki sanaa kerni hai darood perhna hai woh Hazrat Muhammad Sallalaho Allahe wasalam hain aur iss thread ki hurmat ek fazoool behas se bohat zyada hai ... so please iss thread ko mazeed behas se kharaab naa karen...
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    jab aap meray sawal ka jawab denay main kamiyab ho jaen ge to ma b aapko jawab day doon ga,
    aap ko mery baton k pechay meray maqsad ka pata chal gaya,itna bara dawa, toba,
    ma jab se iss forum main aaya hun,ma ne b boht saray members khas tour par female members ke aapkay baray main opinions parhi hain magar ma unke detail main yahan nahi jaoon ga,
    taakay mery ye thread kisi aur taraf na chali jaae!
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    guys plz at least is thread k topic aur is ki maqsad ka hi kuch ehtaram kijiye aap log. continue the topic with appropriate naat shareef or darood shareef. jis kisi b ashaar main kisi kisam ki shak ki gunjayesh hui woh aap se ba qaida baat kar k edit kiya jaye ga. but try karen k aap khud se hi is kisam ki koi cheez post na karen.
    baqi jitni b koi discusdion karni hai, apne sawal ka jawab chaiye tou ek alag thread laga k wahan discuss kijiye, but not in here.
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    is thread main maine ek reply tak nhi kya tha muje to abidi bro ne hi tagg kar ke bulaya
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    okay Shoaib bhai,ma ab Duffer bro ke kisi post par reply nahi karun ga,thanks for guiding me,
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    apki taraf se meri baaton ke jawab na dena mere liye koi itni ehem baat nahi kyunke yeh aapki adat rahi hai ke jin baaton ke jawab apke pas mojod nhi hote aap woh baaten hi goul kar jate hain or agar koi apni baaton ke jawab ke lye insist karta hai to ap usko jawab ki surat main mufti ka label chipka ker uske khilaf thread bana ker new users ke saamne tamasha shuro kar dete ho
    or rahi baat apke jawab dene ki to maine beshak apki ummedon ke mutabiq jawab nhi dya lekin jawab likha zaror lekin ap to mere un 8 tazaad per ek jawab b likhne ki himmat nhi kr paa rahe or maine koi dawa nhi kr rha sirf apki soch bata rha hon or sooch sooch hoti hai jo change b hojati hai jo change kar bhi di jati hai jis tarha aap abi change kr chuke ho apni sooch ko

    main phir se guzarish krta hon plz apne ek sawal ko reoson bana ker mere woh 8 tazaad goul krne ki koshish mat ki jiye
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    fahad woh topic close ho chuka hai aap bhi iss behas ko chorh do yaar please calm down @Abidi bro ager Islam ki khidmat kerna chahtey hain to aap bhi no doubt un ka sath do ge aur mai bhi...
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    thread starter ko hi koi ehtiraam nahi to phir nelli hum to just visitors hi hain aap abidi se pochen ke usne meri mufti wale thread main ki jane wali posting ka jawab yahan de ker mujhe tagg kr ke kyun bulaya?[DOUBLEPOST=1353069789][/DOUBLEPOST]
    ek guzarish or hai bhai
    muje muffti ka laqab de ker mere khilaf koi thread b nhi banaiyega plzz
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    okays mery taraf se ab topic se related posts he aaen gee,InshaAllah,
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    main us topic ko tab chorta jab us topic main involve hota ap us thread main ja ker meri posting read ki jiye maine kisi ek ki side lye bina sirf ek munsifana baat ki thi ke chiragh bro ki ayaaton se aitraz hai to un ayaton ki tehqeeq ki jain tehqeeq ke mutabiq woh ayaten ghalt hai to chiragh bro ko saza di jiye or agr tehqeeq ke mutabiq wo ayaten theek hain to phir is thread ko banane ka or muftiyon per bina tehqeeq ungli uthane ka koi reason nhi honi chahiye
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    The Prophet Muhammad(P.B.U.H)


    Of all Allah's creations,
    He was the most supreme,
    And he filled this world with Nur,
    The kind we've never seen.


    Even history can show no parallel to him,
    The most perfect being by far,
    He was the Prophet ,
    And most beloved by Allah.


    Never will anyone be able to match up to him,
    Even if all of us combined,
    Because he was uniquely created,
    And sent as a mercy to mankind.


    So humble were his actions,
    And so justly did he rule, that even the non-believers embraced Islam,
    Oh, how great was our Rasul .


    For all the years he lived,
    He never held a grudge,
    He never told a lie,
    He was more honest than a judge.


    Our Prophet even forgave his enemies,
    No matter what their actions were,
    And he even made Dua for them,
    An attribute that is so rare.


    For all the favours bestowed upon him,
    Our Prophet never forgot his Ummah,
    And yet how much have we done to repay him,
    Do we even practice upon his Sunnah?


    Just to be a bit like our Prophet ,
    Should be something we all desire,
    Because his attributes are so many,
    It would take more than one lifetime to acquire.


    Please practice upon his teachings,
    Because they are an important guide,
    To reunite us with our savior,
    And with him Jannah to reside
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