Reading Quran For The Dead? Right Or Wrong ?

[Masoom_girl]

ASSLAMU ALIKUM


Jo log is dunia mein nahn rhe unko shwab phochne ke lye QURAN perhna jaiz he ? agr kise ke death hote he to log unke ghr jake QURAN perhte hen take marne wale ko swab mil ske ? kai ye sahi he ?:/ kia ISLAM is bat ke ijazat deta he ?



@saviou @Zia_Hayderi

 

[Just_Like_Roze]

bilkul sahi hy islam is ki ijazat daita hy

 

[Masoom_girl]

bilkul sahi hy islam is ki ijazat daita hy

Apko kisne kaha ? :/

 

[Just_Like_Roze]

Apko kisne kaha ? :/

jo log whn ja kr roty hain os se marny waly ki rooh ko takleef hoti hai oar acha tareeq yehi hy k app un ki magfirat k liye Quran ki talawat krain darood Shareef prhain ...

 

[Hoorain]

@MuftiSaeed @S_ChiragH @STAR24

 

[HorrorReturns]

jo banda mar jata hai us ka nama amaal tap ho jata hai.. kuch cheezon ka us ko sawab milta hai.. sadqa jaria.. naik olad .. sadq khairat... quran waighara ka sowab usi ko milay ga jo parh raha ho ga.. agr aisay sowab milay tau sab jant mian na chalay jain..

 

[Masoom_girl]

jo banda mar jata hai us ka nama amaal tap ho jata hai.. kuch cheezon ka us ko sawab milta hai.. sadqa jaria.. naik olad .. sadq khairat... quran waighara ka sowab usi ko milay ga jo parh raha ho ga.. agr aisay sowab milay tau sab jant mian na chalay jain..

heheh meine kise se phocha tha to bola k islye perhte hen k take marne wale ko swab mile uske gunah kam ho jayen or jannat mein chla jaye meine socha kia ajeeb log hen .. ajkal to sabne apna ISLAM bnaya hua he :/

 

[Zia_Hayderi]

امام احمد اور علماء کی ایک جماعت کا یہ ماننا ہے کہ قرآن پڑھنے کا ثواب میت کو پہنچتا ہے اور علمائے اہل سنت سے ایک جماعت حنفیہ کا یہ مذہب ہے کہ انسان کو جائز ہے کہ اپنے عمل کا ثواب غیر کو بخشے خواہ نماز ہو یا روزہ یاصدقہ یا قراءت قرآن یا کوئی ذکر یا کسی قسم کی کوئی اور عبادت اور یہی قول دلیل کی رو سے زیادہ افضل ہے اور دارقطنی نےروایت کیا ہے کہ ایک مرد نے رسول اللہ ﷺ سے پوچھا کہ وہ اپنے والدین کے ساتھ ان کے مرنے کے بعد کیونکر نیکی و احسان کرے آپ ﷺنے فرمایا اپنی نماز کے ساتھ ان دونوں کے لیے نماز پڑھے اور اپنے روزہ کے ساتھ ان دونوں کے لیے روزہ رکھے اور ابوداؤد میں معقل ابن یسار سے روایت ہے کہ رسول اللہ ﷺ نے فرمایا اپنے مردوں پرسورۃ یٰسین پڑھو اور یہ حکم میت کو بھی شامل ہے بلکہ حقیقۃ میت ہی کے لیے ہے اور صحیح بخاری و صحیح مسلم میں ہے کہ رسول الہ ﷺ ایک بھیڑ اپنی طرف سے قربانی کرتے تھے اور ایک اپنی اُمت کی طرف سے اور اس میں اس بات کی طرف اشارہ ہے کہ آدمی کو غیر کا عمل نفع دیتا ہے

شرح کنز میں ہے:
(ترجمہ عربی عبارت) ’’ انسان کو حق پہنچتا ہے کہ اپنے کسی عمل کا ثواب کسی اور آدمی کو بخشے نماز ہو یا روزہ ، حج ہو یا صدقہ یا قرآن مجید کی تلاوت یا کوئی اور عمل نیک اور اس کا ثواب اہل سنت کے نزدیک میت کو پہنچتا ہے۔
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امام شافعی کے نزدیک قرآن کی تلاوت کا ثواب نہیں پہنچتا البتہ بعض شوافع تلاوت اور دوسرے نیک اعمال کے ثواب پہنچنے کے قائل ہیں۔​

امام احمد بن حنبل اور علماء کی ایک جماعت اور بعض شوافع کے نزدیک تلاوت اور دوسرے نیک اعمال کے ثواب پہنچنے کے قائل ہیں۔‘‘​

 

[HorrorReturns]

heheh meine kise se phocha tha to bola k islye perhte hen k take marne wale ko swab mile uske gunah kam ho jayen or jannat mein chla jaye meine socha kia ajeeb log hen .. ajkal to sabne apna ISLAM bnaya hua he :/

haan loogon ki tafseerain hain ... jab islam arab se ajam main aya tau sab logon boton kay pujari ho gay.. aur asal islam ko chor dia...

تمدن، تصوف، شریعت، کلام
بتان عجم کے پجاری تمام

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[ayazahmad]

G pohanchta ha sawab......or apas me behas krne ki bajae ap logo to kisi Aalim se contact krna chahye.

 

[Masoom_girl]

G pohanchta ha sawab......or apas me behas krne ki bajae ap logo to kisi Aalim se contact

hmm

 

[Hoorain]

@saviou

 

[RehmanS]

ASSLAMU ALIKUM


Jo log is dunia mein nahn rhe unko shwab phochne ke lye QURAN perhna jaiz he ? agr kise ke death hote he to log unke ghr jake QURAN perhte hen take marne wale ko swab mil ske ? kai ye sahi he ?:/ kia ISLAM is bat ke ijazat deta he ?


hades nabvi hy jab tum qaberstan k nazdeek se guzro t ayat tul kursi ki tilawat kiya karo
@saviou @Zia_Hayderi

ha

 

[Naila_Rubab]

No comments on Religious Topics, Baat door tak nikaal jati hai...

But for this thread itna he kehna chahoon gi,

Banda/Bandi Allah k pass chala gaya oss k amaal oss k sath,

Dua Khair kerna Sadqa Jariya hai, or Dua me Holy QURAN, sy baar ker or koe dua nahi hai....

Allah Ham sb ko naiki ki baat kernay or Naiki philanay ki taufeeq/taqat ataa Farmaye Ameen Sum Ameen

 

[truerahid]

ASSLAMU ALIKUM


Jo log is dunia mein nahn rhe unko shwab phochne ke lye QURAN perhna jaiz he ? agr kise ke death hote he to log unke ghr jake QURAN perhte hen take marne wale ko swab mil ske ? kai ye sahi he ?:/ kia ISLAM is bat ke ijazat deta he ?



@saviou @Zia_Hayderi

Allahu alam ask them to bring the daleel that they base their claims on.

"Tahlil" is haram, there is no confirmation for this in sunnah, rather it is a despised innovation. Al-Qur'an was sent as a reminder to the living, not to grieve over the dead.

All narrations allowing reciting Al-Qur'an for the dead are weak or fabricated. Rasulullah s.a.w.s. said "read surah Yasin ror those who are on deathbed" - on deathbed is not dead. Furthermore, it is only to recite surah Yasin if the dying understands Arabic, because it is the meaning of surah Yasin why it could be recited to the dying. Surah Yasin is a reminder of afterlife.

Regarding your narration: Rasulullah s.a.w.s. said: “When a man dies, all his deeds come to a halt apart from three: ongoing charity (sadaqah jaariyah), beneficial knowledge or a righteous child who will pray for him.” (Al-Tirmidhi; hasan)

There are no merits which go to the dead for that act, there is only sin for those who involve in such acts. Allah s.w.t. said: "This is the Scripture whereof there is no doubt, a guidance for the God-fearing" (2:2). As there is no guidance for the dead, it clearly shows that Al-Qur'an is for the living.

Hadeeth saying: "For everything there is a heart, and for the Qur'an this is Surah Ya Sin and who reads it, it is as if he has read the Qur'an ten times", is fabricated.

The Hadeeth related by Abu Dawood "Recite Yasin on your deceased" was declared weak (dhaeef) by Abu Dawood himself, and Ibn Taymiyya held the same opinion and Al-Dar Al-Qutni said regarding the narration: "In the chain of narrators of this hadith there is confusion. Its text is obscure and is not correct."
You can make dua for dead stipulating that they died in Islam. Things that can be done on behalf of the dead are: ask forgiveness for them, fasting, paying debts, hajj.

 

[Zia_Hayderi]

Allahu alam ask them to bring the daleel that they base their claims on.

"Tahlil" is haram, there is no confirmation for this in sunnah, rather it is a despised innovation. Al-Qur'an was sent as a reminder to the living, not to grieve over the dead.

All narrations allowing reciting Al-Qur'an for the dead are weak or fabricated. Rasulullah s.a.w.s. said "read surah Yasin ror those who are on deathbed" - on deathbed is not dead. Furthermore, it is only to recite surah Yasin if the dying understands Arabic, because it is the meaning of surah Yasin why it could be recited to the dying. Surah Yasin is a reminder of afterlife.

Regarding your narration: Rasulullah s.a.w.s. said: “When a man dies, all his deeds come to a halt apart from three: ongoing charity (sadaqah jaariyah), beneficial knowledge or a righteous child who will pray for him.” (Al-Tirmidhi; hasan)

There are no merits which go to the dead for that act, there is only sin for those who involve in such acts. Allah s.w.t. said: "This is the Scripture whereof there is no doubt, a guidance for the God-fearing" (2:2). As there is no guidance for the dead, it clearly shows that Al-Qur'an is for the living.

Hadeeth saying: "For everything there is a heart, and for the Qur'an this is Surah Ya Sin and who reads it, it is as if he has read the Qur'an ten times", is fabricated.

The Hadeeth related by Abu Dawood "Recite Yasin on your deceased" was declared weak (dhaeef) by Abu Dawood himself, and Ibn Taymiyya held the same opinion and Al-Dar Al-Qutni said regarding the narration: "In the chain of narrators of this hadith there is confusion. Its text is obscure and is not correct."
You can make dua for dead stipulating that they died in Islam. Things that can be done on behalf of the dead are: ask forgiveness for them, fasting, paying debts, hajj.

شرح کنز میں ہے:
(ترجمہ عربی عبارت) ’’ انسان کو حق پہنچتا ہے کہ اپنے کسی عمل کا ثواب کسی اور آدمی کو بخشے نماز ہو یا روزہ ، حج ہو یا صدقہ یا قرآن مجید کی تلاوت یا کوئی اور عمل نیک اور اس کا ثواب اہل سنت کے نزدیک میت کو پہنچتا ہے۔

 

[Zia_Hayderi]

صحیح بخاری و صحیح مسلم میں ہے کہ رسول الہ ﷺ ایک بھیڑ اپنی طرف سے قربانی کرتے تھے اور ایک اپنی اُمت کی طرف سے اور اس میں اس بات کی طرف اشارہ ہے کہ آدمی کو غیر کا عمل نفع دیتا ہے-ایصال ثواب ایک تحفہ کی طرح ہوتا ہے- آپ اللہ سے دعا کرتے ہیں کہ اس عمل خیر کا ثواب مرحوم کی روح کو پہنچے- عمل خیر میں ہر اچھا عمل, تلاوت قرآن، نماز، روزہ ، حج، صدقہ وغیرہ شامل ہیں-
یہ بجا ہے کہ مرنے کےبعد مردہ اپنے طور پر کوئی عمل نہیں کر سکتا ہے- لیکن ایصال ثواب کی اپنی ایک حکمت ہے- مجھے حیرت ہوتی ہے کہ لوگ قرآن خوانی کے متعلق، اتنی شدّت سے مخالفت کیوں کرتے ہیں- مخالفین یہ واضح نہیں کرتے ہیں کہ وہ قرآن خوانی کے مخالف ہیں یا ایصال ثواب کے-​

 

[truerahid]

Can you transl

شرح کنز میں ہے:
(ترجمہ عربی عبارت) ’’ انسان کو حق پہنچتا ہے کہ اپنے کسی عمل کا ثواب کسی اور آدمی کو بخشے نماز ہو یا روزہ ، حج ہو یا صدقہ یا قرآن مجید کی تلاوت یا کوئی اور عمل نیک اور اس کا ثواب اہل سنت کے نزدیک میت کو پہنچتا ہے۔

Can you translate it to eng or hindi

 

[MuftiSaeed]

Assalaam O Alaikum,

Praise Be To Allah

Reciting Quran with the intention to transfer the patrial reward to the dead is, Bidah, that is a sin unforgiveable among the three, Shirk, Kuffr, Bidah. According to the Prophet pbuh use to recite in in Fridat sermons. "Kullu Bidahtin Dhalalah Wa Kulla Dhalalah finNaar". Every innovation is misguidance and every misguidance leads to Hell Fire.

Reciting Quran with intention to send reward to the dead is a Bidah, because the practice of reciting Quran for the dead, doesn't exist according to Sunnah of the Prophet pbuh or the Sahabas. This practice as started later to corrupt the religion.

Hadith

The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said: “When a man dies, his deeds come to an end except for three things: Sadaqah Jariyah (ceaseless charity); knowledge which is beneficial; or a virtuous descendant who prays for him (the deceased).” [Sahih Muslim]
“His deeds come to an end” means that he/she is not able to perform any deeds any more and therefore does not receive reward for actions anymore. But there are three categories of actions for which he/she can receive reward even after death.

First, Sadaqah Jariyah: This is any good deed done from which people continue to benefit despite the demise of the person who originated it. For example, the establishment of a madrassa or masjid from which people are rightly guided will be sadaqah jariya for the person who established it. Having a well dug or a shade or fruit tree planted will also accrue good deeds for a person, as long as the well or tree benefits people.

Second, “knowledge which is beneficial” means knowledge imparted verbally or by any other means through which people become better Muslims. As long as people benefit from this knowledge, the teacher will receive reward for it.

A third source of reward is having virtuous descendants. Training of children on the right lines and then making dua for them to be among the righteous is essential, so that after a person's death they continue to pray for him or her. The prayer of righteous children in favour of parents is very useful.

Needless to say all such deeds have to be done with sincerity (ikhlas) in seeking the pleasure of Allah (subhana wa ta’ala). Only when they are done to earn Allah’s pleasure will they be rewarded by Him. If they are done for fame, monetary gain, or any other worldly benefit, then the outcome one achieves in this world is all that they will get for it.

(Sahih Muslim)


Non of the above, mentioned to recite the Quran for the dead, who ever justify with an arguments, belong to sect of Islam but according the authentic narrations of the Prophet, no where mentioned, reciting the Quran will send the reward to the dead.

May Allah increase our knowledge of Islam and guide us towards truth, Aameen

Ammaar Saeed
IRFNY.com

 

[MuftiSaeed]

Continues....

The logic behind is,

example, a person who did sin whole life and died so the left behind people reciting Quran for the dead. That means on the day of judgment, he will be saved from punishment that he committed in the world while he was alive. Its a same concept of Christianity, because of having belief that Jesus was died for the sins of Christians, based on the belief that Jesus was died for the sake of the other Christians. The Christians will get salvation is a false belief.

Quran 6:164

".....No person earns any (sin) except against himself (only), and no bearer of burdens shall bear the burden of another.....

If a person gets reward people sending him reward, this world will be full of sinners and more corruption in humankind.

Example, A person committed Zina whole life, then after he dies, people reciting Quran to send him reward. Will he be saved because people send reward to him, he will be saved on judgment day???

Doesn't make no sense of this logic. basically it s false teachings of the scholars of India and Pakistan, an actual a Shaitan behind the human fooling with false logic. Why shaitan doing this, to corrupt the humankind and spread sin, so people die with hope that behind left people will send him reward. But he will be among the loosers on judgment day.

This is a false concept, reciting Quran to send reward to the dead.