TM Debate Contest 2011/12 Round-1

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Ghazal_Ka_Chiragh

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~Superstars ki baari~


jaisa ke humare mukhalif team ke member aur beshaq mere eik achhe dost khud hi keh chuke
ke har cheez mein achhaiy buraiy hoti hai faraq is baat ka hai ke hum use kaise istemaal karein


is hi tarah agar aap is nuqta e nazar per electronic media ko qasoorwaar karengein to
schools mein studnets aur teacher ke bhi affairs hote hain aaj kal to 25% larke school
jaate hi teachers ke liye hain


2.aur agar aaj ki tareekh mein electronic media jahaan buraion mein kisi se peechhe nahin wahin
achhaiyan bhi bohot saari hain misilan


NEWs channels aur unke sms service se bakhabar rehne ki wajeh se laakhon loug hangama aaraiy wale ilaqon mein
jaa ker khatraat se guzarne se bach jaate hain


Moviez.... eik baat to saaf hai ke har film mein kisi family balke around the world per 3 ghante mein
banaiy jaati hai to kisi bhi bache ko agar unme se achhe points samjha diye jaayen misilan

Baabarr se us film ke end ke nuqte se bachon ko hum achhi naseehat dila sakte hain
aur aisi eik do nahin balke har film is hi tarah se hoti hai (in super stars point of view)
phir aate hain Veena malik ki taraf to jahaan janaab humein Veena malik ke charche yaad hain
is mein humari hi khata hai ke humein Veena ji yaad hain humein to Kousar TV ke adakaarayen
yaad rakhni chahyein jo bina scarf o naqaab ke nahin aate


jis tarah aaj jadeed dour ke electronic media pe tanqeed kiya ja raha hai younhi
aaj se kuch baras pehle mobiles per aur cars per bhi shayad hoti thi magar aaj
yeh har fard ki zaroorat aur har fard ke paas hain

aur bohot se loug phone ko chechora pan be haiyaiy kidnapping ke jaise kaamon ke liye
istemaal karte hain


wahin doosri taraf jo baap eik sheher se doore sheher yaa eik mulk se doosre mulk chala
gaya hai uske bachon se uska raabta nahin ho paa raha wahan bhi yehi phone kaam aata hai naa???


at the end i will say ke faqat eik knife se pyaz bhi katta aur gala bhi

to qasoorwaar aur khaami wala kniw nahin huwa istemaal karne wala huwa
 

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Jese k mere aziz dost ne kaha k inhon ne chand bachon ko ikhatta ker k kalma suna aur phir pasandidah gane k bare mein. to hum in sahab se ye pooche k janab ferz karein k ager tv aur cable na hote to kya is se bachon ko kalma yaad ho jata. mere kehne ka matlab hei k ye kalme yaad karana ye terbiyat ka aik hissa hei aur ye maa baap, aur ustad-e-mohtaram ka kaam hei. k wo apne bachon ko sakhti se in gane bajano se rokein aur in ki terbiyat ache se karein, aur tv mein jo is kism k wahiyaat programs lagte hein aise channels hi tv ki ahem nashist nahi is k ilawa bohot ache programs hein. like Qtv. peace tv, etc jese bohot se ache channels hein, jo bachon ki islah ker sakte hein, aur doosri baat k purane zamane mein ager tv nahi tha to aap dekh sakte hein k kis qader jahalat aur fasadaat the, log choti choti baaton ka batanger bana lete the mager aaj k technology dor mein log kuch sambhal gai hein.
THINK
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Asma24

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ASSALAM WALIEKUM

MERE QABIL DOST TAYAB NE KAFI ACHI ROSHNI DALI HY BUT
JAHAN TAK DEBATE KI TOPIC KI BAAT HY ME SABSE PEHLE APNI RAYI ELCTRONIC MEDIA PER DENA CHAHTI HON

elctronic media has so many advantages not only for evry person but for children also,
duniya ki tareekh me hmara mulk pakistan kun peeche hy bcoz her foriegn country elctronic media apne logon ko elctronic media farahim kerti hy...bachon se leker boorhon tak sab ki soholat k liye ..
hmare pakistan me hm bachon ko en sab cheezon se door rakhte hain bcoz hamen lgata hy en se banchey apna time waste karenge aur study per concentrations nahi denge..but b4 this kya kbhi hm ne aisA socha hy k es technology se bachon ki tallem aur bhter tarbiat m e b izafa hoskta hy..
let me give some exmapless....tv,mobile,computer,,wgera ,,tv per islamic shows k sth sath informative programmes b atey hain ..jinse na sirf knowledge me izafa hota hy,,ghar bethe bachey IsAlmic education se b arasta hote hain aur even aise programme jn se kuCh na kcuh ssekhne ko milta hy wo unki knowledge Me izafa kerta hy balke bachey en me ziyadA tar interst b lete hain....

zara hamen apni mulk ki taraki ka b sochnna chaiye ...
hm apne bachon ko dosre mulk study k liye bhejte hain ..kya ye kam example hy ka hamre han wo sab facilities nahi ahin jo dosre mulkon me hian eska sabse bara hath elctronic media ka hy ..bcoz wo sab apne mulk k bachon ko technology se ralted studies dete hain..jis se bachon ki zahanat ka sabse aehm qirdar ada hota hy
ghar beteh unka mulk taraki kerta rehta hy,,
tv per bht se informative shows aatey hain ,,geo jesa channal ghr ghr aata hy js se duniya ki news maloom hoti hain..islamic programmes aatey hain aur dosre b bht se entertainments ki channal aatey hain..js se bachey na sirf kuch different talent sekhte hain balke wo study se hut ker apne passand ki cheezon per b enjoy ker lete hain:)
tarbiat agr kharab hy to eskla relation media se nahi.
her nature me trbiat ka asar hota hy
50 sal pehle jab media nahi thi tab kya log bure nahi the?
unka ikhlaq bura nahi tha..aaj agr ye sahoolat hy jse se hamen kuch bashour hone ka chance mil raha hy to hm es se kun peeche rahen..
aur mere qabil dost tyaab ne uper veena malik ka zikar kiya hy jahan tak mera khayal hy veena ka es topic se koi relationship nahi coz mere khayal se veena ka shumar bachon me nahi hota:)
 

*khushi*

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my dear friend

30 40 saal pehly duniya itni fast b nahi thi...

us zmany main b log un salooiaat say mustafeed hoty thy jo muyassar hoti theen...

or ab b log un cheezon say mustafeed hoty hain jo muyassar hain jin ka dor hai....

aisy to aap 30 40 saal say pehly ka zmana dekh lain tb wo kuch nahi tha jo 30 40 saal pehly tha oor ab wo sb hai jo 30 40 saal pehly nahi tha....

or doosri baat ye k agr R john and indian mahr e nafsiaat ka aisa kehna hai to wo ye kion nahi kehty k agr bchon ko bura e ki bjaye acha e dikha e jaye to kia hota hai?

main btaati hoon

bchy wahi dekhty hain jo hum dikhaaty hain....

agr hum bchon ko achy programs dikhayen or net ki acha e dikhayen to wo zaroor dekhen gay...

kehty hain na bchy bron say seekhty hain to agr hum ghlt kaam kren gay to wo b ghlt kaam hi kren gay

agr hum achy kaam kren gay to wo b achy hi kren gay....:)
 

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ASSALAM WALIEKUM

MERE QABIL DOST TAYAB NE KAFI ACHI ROSHNI DALI HY BUT
JAHAN TAK DEBATE KI TOPIC KI BAAT HY ME SABSE PEHLE APNI RAYI ELCTRONIC MEDIA PER DENA CHAHTI HON

elctronic media has so many advantages not only for evry person but for children also,
duniya ki tareekh me hmara mulk pakistan kun peeche hy bcoz her foriegn country elctronic media apne logon ko elctronic media farahim kerti hy...bachon se leker boorhon tak sab ki soholat k liye ..
hmare pakistan me hm bachon ko en sab cheezon se door rakhte hain bcoz hamen lgata hy en se banchey apna time waste karenge aur study per concentrations nahi denge..but b4 this kya kbhi hm ne aisA socha hy k es technology se bachon ki tallem aur bhter tarbiat m e b izafa hoskta hy..
let me give some exmapless....tv,mobile,computer,,wgera ,,tv per islamic shows k sth sath informative programmes b atey hain ..jinse na sirf knowledge me izafa hota hy,,ghar bethe bachey IsAlmic education se b arasta hote hain aur even aise programme jn se kuCh na kcuh ssekhne ko milta hy wo unki knowledge Me izafa kerta hy balke bachey en me ziyadA tar interst b lete hain....

zara hamen apni mulk ki taraki ka b sochnna chaiye ...
hm apne bachon ko dosre mulk study k liye bhejte hain ..kya ye kam example hy ka hamre han wo sab facilities nahi ahin jo dosre mulkon me hian eska sabse bara hath elctronic media ka hy ..bcoz wo sab apne mulk k bachon ko technology se ralted studies dete hain..jis se bachon ki zahanat ka sabse aehm qirdar ada hota hy
ghar beteh unka mulk taraki kerta rehta hy,,
tv per bht se informative shows aatey hain ,,geo jesa channal ghr ghr aata hy js se duniya ki news maloom hoti hain..islamic programmes aatey hain aur dosre b bht se entertainments ki channal aatey hain..js se bachey na sirf kuch different talent sekhte hain balke wo study se hut ker apne passand ki cheezon per b enjoy ker lete hain:)
tarbiat agr kharab hy to eskla relation media se nahi.
her nature me trbiat ka asar hota hy
50 sal pehle jab media nahi thi tab kya log bure nahi the?
unka ikhlaq bura nahi tha..aaj agr ye sahoolat hy jse se hamen kuch bashour hone ka chance mil raha hy to hm es se kun peeche rahen..
aur mere qabil dost tyaab ne uper veena malik ka zikar kiya hy jahan tak mera khayal hy veena ka es topic se koi relationship nahi coz mere khayal se veena ka shumar bachon me nahi hota:)
walaikum assalam wrwb :)
aap tamam ki posts parhkar kaafi khushi hui.har koi apne favour me acchi baat rakhne ki koshih kar raha hai.ab aate dear asma(lecturer) sis k post ki taraf inki post maine parhi.is post se maine chund nukaat note kiye.wo ye k ksi mulk ki taraqi me electronic media ka amal daqal hota hai.jabke hum acchi tarha jante hain k mulk ki taraqi me media ka koi daqal nahi hota.balke mulk ki taraqi ka inhesaar uski GDP rate par munhasir hota hai.jo country jitna ziada apne daraamadaat karegi utna uski economic position strong hogi.aap dekhiye america ka gdp rate 22.6% hai jabke hamare mulkaon ka ba mushkil 10% bhi ho.

aur rahi baat bacchaon ki taleem ki to main kahunga k internet ya tv k zarye chund ek programmes ya syllebus faraham kiye jaate hain.laikin aise sites ya programmes ko hum apni ungliaon par gin sakte hain.aur iski misal aate me namak k barabar hai.electronic media ki jitni bhi cheezen hain unse faayede kum aur nuqsanaat ziada hote hain.aur uski misal aaj hamara muashera khud hai.

bacchon ki pahli darsgah uski maa ki goad hoti hai.baccha pahle apni maa se seekhta hai.laikin hum dekhte hain k kitne aise ghar hain jahan maa baap khud apne bacchaon k saath baith kar gandi aur behuda filmein dekhte hain.kitne aise news channels hain jinse hame waqayi sacchi news mil paati hai.aaj is electronic media hi ki wajah se islam ko itna ghalat tareeqe se logon me dikhaaya jaata hai.kaun iska zummedaar hai. aaj har news channel ksi k hathaon bika hua hai ksi na ksi siaysi party se ye mile jule hote hain.aur usi ki ashaayat me masroof rahte hain.jinse awam tak sacchi qabren bhi nahi pahunch paatin.
 

*khushi*

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iam sharing a video, see the Horrible impact of Media on So called " Honehaar Barda K Chikne Chikne paat "

mery muaziz dost ny kaha k bchon ko kalma nahi aata tha or songs suny to gaany lgy....

to my dear friend unen computer,TV,Mobile etc ny to nahi kaha na k kalma na pro or gaany gao....

computer ya TV main b kalma sikhaaty hain....Quraan prhaaty hain smjhaaty hain is main electronic media ka to koi qasoor nahi k bchon ko kia ata hai or kia nahi.....

aap khud sochen na k agr wo tution say jaldi aa jaty hain aishwrya ki beti ki ya kisi dramy ki wja say to is main TV computer ka kia qasoor?

ye to parents ka qasoor hai na unen dehaan dena chahiye....

or agr parents tng hain k bchy raat der tk mobile pr baaten krty hain to is main mobila ka kia qasoor?

mobile khud to un k paas chl kr nahi aya na?


parents bchon k haath main aisi cheezen dety hain to hi wo ye sb krty hain :)
 

*khushi*

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walaikum assalam wrwb :)
aap tamam ki posts parhkar kaafi khushi hui.har koi apne favour me acchi baat rakhne ki koshih kar raha hai.ab aate dear asma(lecturer) sis k post ki taraf inki post maine parhi.is post se maine chund nukaat note kiye.wo ye k ksi mulk ki taraqi me electronic media ka amal daqal hota hai.jabke hum acchi tarha jante hain k mulk ki taraqi me media ka koi daqal nahi hota.balke mulk ki taraqi ka inhesaar uski GDP rate par munhasir hota hai.jo country jitna ziada apne daraamadaat karegi utna uski economic position strong hogi.aap dekhiye america ka gdp rate 22.6% hai jabke hamare mulkaon ka ba mushkil 10% bhi ho.

aur rahi baat bacchaon ki taleem ki to main kahunga k internet ya tv k zarye chund ek programmes ya syllebus faraham kiye jaate hain.laikin aise sites ya programmes ko hum apni ungliaon par gin sakte hain.aur iski misal aate me namak k barabar hai.electronic media ki jitni bhi cheezen hain unse faayede kum aur nuqsanaat ziada hote hain.aur uski misal aaj hamara muashera khud hai.

bacchon ki pahli darsgah uski maa ki goad hoti hai.baccha pahle apni maa se seekhta hai.laikin hum dekhte hain k kitne aise ghar hain jahan maa baap khud apne bacchaon k saath baith kar gandi aur behuda filmein dekhte hain.kitne aise news channels hain jinse hame waqayi sacchi news mil paati hai.aaj is electronic media hi ki wajah se islam ko itna ghalat tareeqe se logon me dikhaaya jaata hai.kaun iska zummedaar hai. aaj har news channel ksi k hathaon bika hua hai ksi na ksi siaysi party se ye mile jule hote hain.aur usi ki ashaayat me masroof rahte hain.jinse awam tak sacchi qabren bhi nahi pahunch paatin.
dear brother

agr chnd aik syllebus kiya jaaty hain to phir hum net pr hr cheez asaani say kaisy dhoond lety hain?

net pr sb kuch hota hai jbi to search main saamny aa jata hai to aisa kehna to theek nahi hoga k chnd aik program ya syllebus milty hain :)

muashra nuqsanaat ki wja say agr apni misaal aap hai to agr yahi muashra in cheezon k fwayed ki trf tawajja day to b muashra apni misaal aap bn skta hai :)

agr nuqsanaat zyada or faidy km hain to un km fwayed ki ahmiyat zyada nuqsanaat say zyada hai :)
 

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Ek point jho k mai ziker kerna chahungi and jho humare oposition se dekhne ko mel raha hain,
humare group I think yaha pe es bare mei baat nahin ker rahe k electronic system mukamal taur per ghalat hain, chiragh bro kahte hai k en sub se acha use kiya jasakta hain and unhone cell phone and cars waghaira k bhi examples diye k pahlay loug esay bhi ghalat kahte the but ab yeh logo ki zaroorat ban chuke so I wanna se Iam agree with you per yeh serf mature logu k lie hain bacho k lie nai yaha baat about kids hurahe hain, kids k lie kia yeh sub use kerna sahi hain k nahin? so we have to talk about this topic..
and I wanna mention here k ek baar Dr.Zakir naik se kessi admi ne pocha k he wants to watch peace TV and kio k unke gher mei cable nahin hain tu eslie voh nai dekh sakte and cable eslie nai lagaye kio k uske elawa aur bhi aise channels tune hute hain jeska dekhna munasib nahin and jho unke kids pe bura aser karega so then Dr.Zakir naik said k ager aapko mere channel k lie cable connect kerni hain then behter hain aap na kare kio k waha pe peace tv tu ek Islamic channel hugi lekin 100 se zyada aise channels hugi jeska bacho pe bura aser hoga...
beshuk her ek chees ki ache and buri usage huti hain but then hame yeh dekhna hain k kitne percent us chees mei benifit hain achae hain then we should follow, so hum sab jante hain k internet,TV, cell phones etc... bacho k lie koi bhi acha aser nai kersakta even I got to know that k jho immature kids arround 10 to 15 huti hain unke parents unhe net and cell phone laker dete hain yeh soch ker k ab yeh ajkal k zamane k mutabek sub kuch seekh jayenge but voh parents yeh nai dekhta k enke kids akhir us chees ko kaise mis use ker rahe hain internet pe 10-15 yrs old kids nude photos and videos banaker upload ker rahe hain and unke parents ko maloom nai, girl arround 15 to 16 yrs TV mei modelling ka sochte hain, gher se hijab pahan ker yeh loug studio jaate hain and waha pe modelling kerte hain yeh shauk and sab kaha se melte hain humare yahi so called media se jenhe hum kahte hain beneficial hain they are not beneficial in any case khaas ker k tu bacho ko 18 yrs tuk belkul bhi permit nahi kerni chahhye, net mei beshuk Quran tutors hute hain jho buhut mustafeed hain per net ab bana hain es se pahlay kia lougo quran seekhne ko nahin melta ofcourse melta so yeh kahna belkul sahi nahin k net and computer k buhut faide hain there is nothing good it specially about for kids.. ager yeh itna acha hota tu Barak Obama US president aapnay sahab zadio per pabandi na kerti, maloom padha news mei k enke daughters abhi tuk Facbook use nahin kiye and nahin jante hain about it... and abhi aap facebook mei dekho humare he muslims mei 13 yrs old k kids bhi use kerte hain...
 

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App sub nay apnay apny views paiskiya aur sub nay apny apnay hissab ju be likha acah likha hay hay

now come to sis sabah point, inhon nay kaha k aj kal 10-15 yrs k bachay mobile, internet, TV aur wagaira wagiara use ker rahay hay

tu is ma sub say bara kasoor un parents k hay ju khud apnay bacho ku yah cheezay buy ker k detay hay, ager parents chahy tu bacho ku esily payar say smajha saktay hay k abhi app ki omer nahi n sub cheezo ku use kernay ki, jub hum smjhay gay k app is qabil ho gaye hay tu hum khud app ku dil day gay is liye zidd nahi kertay

aur aik aur baat ju meri qabaly mohtaram sister nay kahi k larkiya 15-20 age ki TV per modeling shows dhaikti hay tu aur phir un ma modeling k shouk paida hota hay aur wo gher say hijab pehna ker jati hay aur studio ja ker sub kuch utar deti hay, tu meri behan pehli baat tu yeh k aisy larkiyon ku pehlay tu studio walay accept he nahi kertay jin ki koe jaan pehchaan na hoo aur dossri baat larkiyon ku bhigarany ma be un k parents k he kasoor hay jis ma un ki maa k role sub say xiada hota hay q k ager Maa chahay tu aisy progrma dhiaknay say rok sakti hay aur un ku un channel per terjeeh day gi jo un ki islah k liye banaye gaye gaye hay

aur phir electronic media itna tarqi ker chuka hay k app easily in channels ku khud gher per bhaith ker lock ker sakti hay aur wohi channel use ker sakti hay jis say un k bacho ku fayeda hoo, becz in this time everything is possible, app chahay usay galt use karay yeah phir achy ma


yeh tu thi chand islaah k liye advices

now lets come to our main point k kiya ajj k media bacho per bura asra daal raha hay yeah fayeday mund hay

tu janb her cheez k do rukh hotay hay , jaha kisi cheez k fayeda ho to waha nuqsaan be hota hay but nuqsaan us surat ma hota hay ager app us ku galt kamo k liye use karay

ager app apnay bacho mobile, internet, yeah koe aisy cheez lay ker detay hay jis k taluk social life say hoo aur app usay apnay fayeday k liye is tarh use ker saktay hay jaisy mobile per app app apnay bacho k liye number fix kerwa day ta ka wo apnay gher walo k elawaa kisi say baat na ker sakay bu can receive from every one , aur internet per be app security provide ker saktay hay jin say koe aisy site open hony ka daarr ju app k bacho k liye achi na hoo aur yeah sub kuch bohat easy hojata hay aur is k sub say bara fayeda yeah hoga k app k bacha maloomat k sath sath zamany walao k sath be chalany k qabil ho jata hay
 

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obviously we are talking about kidsss
elctronic media ka bachoon per kesa asr hota hy..
sis sabah ne bht achi achi batein bateyn hain agr tasweer ka dosra rukh dekhen to
her pehloo ke doo roop hote hain acha aur bura,,
bura\e ko bura socho to bura hi lagega na ache ko agr acha socho to zahir hy aacha hi milegeaa.
coz aml to hm per hota hy..
baat aati hy bachoon ki
jo hmare mulk ka mustakbil hain
behter delopments me media ehem qirdar ada kerti hy
net se agr bure asrat hote hain to ache b asrat hote hain her koi logiz bura maan leneg to aagey chal k behter se mehroom hojeynge ..
bachon me ajakl net ka shouq bht ubhar rah hy zaruri nahi hm unhen sirf wasted sites use kerne k liye net lagwa k den ..jabke net se kafi knowledgeable sites b milti hain js se unki study ko supprot milta hy ,,tv per ghalat channal hain to ache channals be hain ..bache jinse se bht kuch seekh saktey hain
hmare gahr me hi peace channal bht dekah jata hy q tv per aur b knowledge me izafa horha hy
ye sab aik saholat hi to hy ,,farz karen agr parents parhe likhe na hoon bache parh skte hain to wo en sab channals ki dtails apne parents ko esily batskte hain..
guzre zamane me ye sab saholatein nahi thi to wo waqt b peeche tha

mere qabil bhai arshad ne meri ponts ko gour se parha
im thanful for that

mulk ki taraki ka darmadaar aik educated aur talented awam per b hota hy bhai

jo information ns hamen net k through milti hain wo mushkil waqt me hamare kaam aaskti hain
jesa k ksi sunjects per deatils history ki batein ...wagera


 

Asma24

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ahem ahem tayab

khud se sochen samjhne ki salahiat ti khud insan me hoti hy
phr to bache khud bht masoom kun hote hain
unhe ja bataya aur dikhaya jata hy wo unper hi gour kerte hain jesa k schoolss me..jahan bache taleem se hm ahangi rakhte hain..
bachon ki umar bht kachi kali b hoti hy magr es umar me samjhne ki taqat tezz b hti hy..jesa k hmen bachpna me sikhayi gayi yaad rehi ahin aaj b
bilashuba ye sab taleem se mila hy,,
aajkal k dour me jahan gour o fikar se rehna parta hy duniya aagey ja rrahi sab ekhte hain tarki karo tarki karo ...amgr technogmentss me peche ..kun?bcoz es me kahrabi hy ,,why bachey kahin bigar na jaeyn ,,bachon ka b socho en se bache kya hasil kerskte hain....duniya bha ki knowledge net per moujood hy..parentss bachon ko study me help na ker paeyn to net k through wo unko es mushkil se nikal sakte hain
 
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