namaz ka sahi tareqa

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  1. thegreatghauri

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    main app say namaz parhanay kay treqay kay barey main guidence chahta hon kyoun kay kuch log ruku aur sajday main janay say pehlay rafa"yden(kanon tak hath lay kar jana) kartay hai aur kuch nahin kartey.hamain kya krna chaheyay?
     
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    hmmm wasay too quran main kahee per bhi namaz k tarika nahi beyan keyaa gaya hai

    per joo sunnat tareka hai iss main rafa den ka kahee zikar nahi hai main iss maslak ka

    name leyna yaha munasib nahi samajta per hum muslim main say hee aik firka asay hai

    joo namaz main sajdai aur ruku say phalai rafa den karta hai
     
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    wo log batatay hain kay saheeh bukhari main ahadees hain aur ye such hai kay saheh bukhari kay chapter characteristics of prayers main hai.
     
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    ASLAMO ALEKUM!

    Imam-e-Azam Hazrat Abu Hanifa Razi allah tallah unho ke mutabiq rafah yadien nahi karni chahiey merey khial se. agar aap hanafi hain yani ke in imam ke peroqar hain to aap ko rafah yadein se baz rehna ho ga.
    mazeed info k liey aap apne sawal pooch saktey hain.
     
  5. Waqar Hussain

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    balkaal teek kaha bismillah ji nay ... jasay k main nay kaha ta ka alaag alaag maslaik hai muslim main to ann main say aik firkaa asay hai joo iss taraha namaz adahaa kartaa hai
     
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    laikin ahadees ko bagheir daleel kay radd bhi to nahin kar saktey.
    farz karen app say ko ghair mukalad kuch is baray main pochay to app ko ussay koi daleel dene paray gi bahgair daleel kay to koi nahin man sakta.
     
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    Aslamo Alekum!
    jahan tak mujhe aap ke is sawal ki samjh ayi hai, merey khial se is ka jawab kuch is tarah banta hai k, pehle to ap ko yeh samjana hoga k jab allah ek hai, us ka rasool salalaho alehey wasalm ek hain, quran ek hai, islam ek hai to phir islam mein 4 imam aissey kyon hain jin ki wajah se log mukhtalif mukhtalif tareeqey se ibadat karte hain?

    dhekiey yeh jo charon imam hai yeh sab sahi hain kyon ke yeh charon imamon ki wajah se nabi paak salalaho alehey wasalm ki sari sunnaton par amal hota hai.
    masal k tor par, kabhi nabi paak salalaho alehey wasalm namaz partey waqat apne haath naaf ke neechey bandetey they aur kabhi apne haath seeney par rakhatey they.
    sochiey k islam mein agar sirf ek hi imam hota aur sarey musalman us ki pervi kartey yani ke namaz partey waqat sari duniya k musalman apne haath naaf ke neechey hi bandetey, to is tarah se nabi paak salalaho alehey wasalm ki ek sunnat par amal hona tha baqi jo un ki sunnatein thien un par shaed koi bhi musalman amal na karta, kyon k sare musalman ek hi imam ke peechey chal rahe hain to phir sare musalman wohi karenge na jo k us imam ke nazdeeq sahi hai. to shaed is liey islam mein 4 imam hain ta k nabi paak salalaho alehey wasalm ki sari sunnaton par amal ho sakey. is liey kuch musalman poorey sar ka masah karte hain aur kuch sar k chotahi hissey ka masah karte hain, aur yeh dono hi sahi hain kyo k sare sar ka masah karna bhi sunnat hai aur chotahi sar ka masah karna bhi nabi paak salalaho alehey wasalm ki sunnat-e-mubarka hai.
    isi liey kuch ahadees aap ko aissi milengi jin mein sunnat to ek hogi lekin us sunnat par amal karne ke mukhtalif tariqey hongey. jaissey k wuzu, kuch log wuzu mein poorey sar ka masah kartey hain kuch sirf sar k chand baal giley kar letey hain, kyon k yeh dono apne imamon k mutabiq chal rahey hain.

    agar mujhe kuch samjane mein samjaane mein kuch galti ho gai ho to please meri sullah kara dijiey ga!
     
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    thank u is say pata chala kay agar rafayadeen karien to bhi theek hai na kare to bhi theek hai right.
     
  9. bismillah

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    Nahi nahi, Sab se Pehle to aap ko yeh decide karna hoga keh aap kiss in 4 Imamon mein se aap kiss ki pervi karna chahti hain, yani k aap kiss imam ke fiqey ke mutabiq chalna chahti hain. 4 imam yeh hain:

    1-) Imam-e-Azam Hazrat Abu Hanifa Razi Allah Tallah Unho, in k manane walon ko Hanafi Kehte hain.
    2-) Hazrat Imam Shafi Rehm Tullah Alehey, in ke Manane walon ko Shafi kehtey hain,
    3-) Hazrat Imam Malik Rehm Tullah Alehey,in ke manane walon ko Maliki kehtey hain,
    4-) Hazrat Imam Ahmed Bin Hanbel Razi Allah Tallah Unho, in ke manane walon ko Hanbli kehtey hain.

    Aap sirf in 4 mein kissi ek ke mutabiq hi chal sakti hain, aissa nahi karna k kuch tareeqey imam shafi se liey aur kuch imam malilki se.
    farz karein k, agar aap imam shafi ke mutabiq chalna chahti hain to aap ko namaz, wuzu wagaira wagaira sab imam shafi ke mutabiq hi karna ho ga jaissa k unhon ne kaha hai.
    Aissa nahi karna k, jo cheez aap ko kissi hanbli k han asan lagi aap ne wo kar li aur jo cheez kissi maliki k han asan lagi wo kar li.






    Nabi pak alaislam kay du'r mai sahaba kiram rizwanullah ajmaneen ko jo bhee masla darpaish hota wo Nabi pak alaislam say pooch laitay aur us pay amal kartay .. Aap alaislam kay wisal e zahiri kay baad baaz sahaba kiram rizwanullah ajmaeen bhee aur dosray musalman bhee aisay Sahaba rizwanullah ajmaneen say jo buhat ilam walay thay aur Nabi pak alaislam say ziada ilam seekhnay ki waja say aur apnay ilm e quran o hadis ki waja say mumtaz thay, naiay naiay masa'il ka hal un say poch kar un kay fatwo pay amal kartay.. maslan Khulafa e Rashideen, Syedina Abdullah ibne Abbas , Syedina Abdullah ibne Umar raziAllah anhum aur aisay buhat say sahaba rizwanullah ajmaeen mumtaz muqam kay hamil thay jin say baad mai paida honay walay aksar musalman rahnumai hasil kartay rahay.. isi tarah yei silsila chalta raha kay musalmano mai har da'ur mai aisay loag maujood rahtay jin say dosray musalman faiz o hidayat hasil kartay aur apnay masail kay leay in ki taraf rujoo kartay... zahir hai aaik aam musalman tu is qabil nahe kay apnay har maslay ka hal Quran or Hadis say nikal lay (maslan telephone jab aaijad howa ab yei ulema e fiqh he bata saktay hain kay is ka kia hukm hoga ) is kaam kay leay aisay Aalim ki zarorat hai jo uloom e deen ka mahir ho aur Halal haram ko janta ho aur aisay tamam uloom ko janta ho jin ki zarorat hoti hai ..in buhat say ulema mai say chand Ulema buhat he ziada mash'hoor howay in kay buhat shagird howay aur kaseer loago nay in kay ilm ko du'r dur tak pohnchaya jin mai say 4 Imam e Azam Abu Hanifa , Imam Shafai , Imam Malik aur Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal rahmatullah alaihim ka naam qabil e zikr hai kay in charo ki shuhrat buhat he ziada howi..aur is tarah yei mazahib e arba'a (4 mazahib yani rastay) sari dunya mai mashoor howayAb jo musalman Imam Shafai kay masail o fatawa pay amal paira hai wo Shafai kahlata hai isi tarah Imam Malik ki nisbat say Maliki , aur Imam Ahmed bin Hambal ki nisbat say Hambali aur Syedina Imam e Azam Abu Hanifa
    Nauman bin Sabit raziAllah anho jo taba'een mai say hain aap kay muqallid (aap ki pairwi karnay walay) Hanafi kahlatay hain dunya mai majority muslims Ahlesunnat wal jamat hain aur Ahle sunnat wal jamat mai say majority muslims fiqa e Hanafi kay man'nay walay hain..yei charo Mazahib e Ahlesunnat wal jamat khaltay hain aur charo he haq hain in mai aqa'id ka koi ikhtilaf nahee sab ka aqida aaik hai tareeka e aamal mai ashia ki fazeelat mai aur makrooh mubah waghaira mai baaz ikhtlifat hain tu jo jis Imam ka muqallid hai apnay Imam kay qaul (yani jo Imam kay nazdeek bahtareen tareeka aur jo imam ka fatwa hai ) pay amal karay inshaAllah us kay leay wo kafi hai kyu kay jaisa misal ooper dee aam musalman ulema say he pochta hai aur ulema kay qaul pay bharosa karta hai aur Allah azzawajal ka bhee yehi
    hukam hai kay jo cheaz na pata ho wo Ahle ilm say pocho Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jeelani raziAllah anho Ha'nbali mazhab pay amal kartay thay aur aap kay silsila roohani mai jo aap kay mureed hain wo Hanafi bhee hain Shafai bhe hai Maliki bhee hain Hambali bhee hain wo aap ki mureedi ki waja say Qadiri kahlatay hain aap kay naam ki nisbat say.....
    Qadiri koi fiqa ya mazhab nahee balkay Tarikat (Roohaniyat) ka aik silsila hai jaisay Chishti Suharwardi
    Naqshbandi waghaira jab koi musalman Allah azzawajal ki marifat Allah azzawajal ki ebadat aur wilayat kay rastay pay chalta hai tu wilayat ki manzilain tay karwanay kay leay usay murshid ki zarorat aur rehnumai chaheay hai tu jin kay rahnuma o Murshid Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jeelani raziAllah anho hain wo Qadiri kahlatay hain..
     
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    lakin bhai jann jahan tak mujhay pata hai kay muqallad ka matllab kissi ki perwi karna baghair kissi dallel kay so is ka matllab kay agar app imam abu hanefa ko follow kartay ho to beshaq us maslay ki koi dallel na ho par phir bhi app usay follow karen ankh band kar key.is baray main imam abu hanefa nein bhi kaha tha kay agar meri kitab main koi bhi ghalti nikal aai to meri kitab ko dewar par mar do that means kay hamin atleast wo ahadees ya aayat check to karni chaheya aya wo theek hai ya nihin agar theek hai to beshak imam haneefa ko follow karo magar dill main itmenan to ho ga na.
     
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    asalamo alekum!
    duniya mein kitne hi karooron sunii aey jinhon ne Imame Azam Abu Hanifa razi allah tallah anho ko folow kiya, aur mein se kitne hi aulia karam aey aur aaj tak, jahan tak mujhe maloom hai, kissi ko koi bhi galti nahi mili un k fiqey mein.
    lekin agar aap phir bhi pard ka dil ki tasali karna chahti hain. to aap mujhe us kitaab ka naam bataiey aur jaissey hi wo mujhe net par miley gi mein aap ko send kar don ga.
    by the way aap konsi hadees/ayat check karne ki baat kar rahi hain?
    asalamo alekum!
     
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    main aik genreral si bat kar raha tha kay agar banda tasali kar lay to acha hai.
     
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    kiss baat ki tasali aap chahti hain?
     
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    jaisay surah bani israel main allah farmata hai"aur jis ka tujhay ilm na ho us ki perwi na kar"
    surah baqrah "keh do agar sachay ho to dallel pesha karo"
    rasool allah nain farmaya"teen cheezon say bacho
    1 alim ki ghalti say
    2 munafiq ka quran lay kar jhagra karna
    3 aur duniya jo tumhari gardanon ko katay gi
    rahi allim ki bat to agar wo hidayat par bhi ho to deen main us ki taqleed na karo aur agar wo phisal jai to us say na umeed na ho jai"
     
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    zahir hai kisi bhi insan say ghalti ho sakti hai jab tak wo rasool na ho. is liay keh raha hon ho sakay to quran aur hadees say dallel check kar leni chaheyay waisay bhi to hum faltoo kam kartay rehtay hain is say acha hai quran aur ahadees ka mutlia bhi ho jai ga aur shaq agar hai to wo bhi door ho jai ga.
     
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    nice work bismillah bhai
     
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    Asalamo Alekum!
    maaf kijiey ga main ab bhi aap ke sawal ko sahi nahi samajh saka,
    kya aap yeh janana chahti hain k Imam Azam Abu Hanifa Razi allah tallah unho sahi they aur un ki perwi karna chahiey ya nahi?
    kya aap is baat ki tasali karna chahti hain kissi hadees ko parney ke baad?
     
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    INTRODUCTON

    Very often the following question is posed to many people: "Do you follow the Deen of Imaam Abu Hanifa (R.A.) or the Deen of Rasulullah (sallallahu alaihi wasallam)?" "Obviously the Deen of Rasulullah (sallallahu alaihi wasallam)," comes the instant reply. The second question is then posed: "Why then do you call yourself a Hanafi?" The person not well versed is perplexed by this question. Doubts are then created in his mind. He soon starts gradually drifting towards the abandoning of taqleed i.e. following one of the four illustrious Imaams viz. Imaam Abu Hanifa (R.A.), Imaam Shafi'i (R.A.), Imaam Malik (R.A.) and Imaam Ahmad bin Hanbal (R.A.).

    By means of the type of questions that have been mentioned above, a deliberate attempt is made to create a misconception in the minds of the unwary — that if you are a Hanafi, you are following the Deen of Imaam Abu Hanifa (R.A.), NOT the Deen of Muhammad (sallallahu alaihi wasallam). This is an absolute fallacy. Imaam Abu Hanifa (R.A.), Imaam Shafi'i (R.A.) and the other Imaams did not invent any Deen of their own. They strictly followed the one and only Deen — the Deen of Islam brought by Rasulullah (sallallahu alaihi wasallam). Their followers are hence also following the same Deen — the Deen of Rasulullah (sallallahu alaihi wasallam).



    Why Follow an Imam?

    The question that arises here is that why then should one follow any of the four Imaams? This can be answered by posing a counter-question: "Do you know all the various laws of Deen? Are you capable of extracting and deriving the laws pertaining to wudhu, salaah, zakaah, etc. directly from the Qur'an and Hadith? Do you know which Hadith has abrogated another? Do you have the ability to reconcile between the various Ahadith which apparently contradict each other? Do you know which verses of the Qur'an are general in their application and which verses are qualified by other texts? etc., etc." If one does not have the knowledge of these aspects, then one definitely does not have the ability to derive the laws directly from the Qur'an and Hadith. In that case the following aayah applies directly to oneself: "Ask those of knowledge if you do not know." (43:7) Hence when we do not have the enormous amount of knowledge and expertise that is necessary to derive the laws directly from the Qur'an and Hadith, we have opted to follow one of those great people who had attained that distinguished mastery in this field, among whom is Imaam Abu Hanifa (R.A.). Imaam Abu Hanifa (R.A.) is a Taabi'i (one who has seen a Sahabi). He attained the knowledge of Hadith from approximately 4000 ustaads. His piety was such that for 40 years he performed fajr salaah with the wudhu of Isha salaah (i.e. he did not sleep the entire night) [Tareekhul Baghdad]. His knowledge, brilliance and righteousness was such that all the great scholars of his time attested to his mastery. Thus one can be well assured that such a person is absolutely capable of deriving the laws directly from the Qur'an and Hadith.

    Another reason for adopting one of the Imaams as a guide is the following aayah of the Qur'an: Allah Ta'ala says: "And follow the path of those who turn to me" (31:15). In order to "turn" to Allah Ta'ala, two aspects are basic requisites — knowledge and practicing according to that knowledge. In this regard the four Imaams were in an extremely high category. Imaam Abu Hanifa (R.A.) was regarded by various Ulama of his time as being the most knowledgeable of the people of that era (footnotes of Tahzeebut Tahzeeb vol. 1 pg. 451). Makki bin Ibrahim, who was one of the renown ustaads of Imaam Bukhari (R.A.), was a student of Imaam Abu Hanifa (R.A.). Imaam Abu Hanifa (R.A.) compiled a book of Hadith entitled "Kitaabul Aathaar" from among 40,000 Ahadith. Thus those who follow such a guide can be satisfied that they are strictly following the commands of Allah Ta'ala and His Rasul (sallallahu alaihi wasallam).



    Difference of Opinion

    At this point somebody may ask: "If all the Imaams deduced the laws directly from the Qur'an and Hadith, how is it possible for them to differ on various aspects?" In order to understand the reality of these differences, we will have to go back in history right upto the time of the Sahaaba (radhiallahu anhum).

    Once Rasulullah (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) had just returned from a battle when he ordered the Sahaaba (radhiallahu anhum) to immediately proceed to the place of Banu Quraizah — a clan of Jews who lived on the outskirts of Madina Munawwarah. The purpose was to lay a siege upon them for having broken the pact that they had made with the Muslims. In order to impress the urgency of the matter upon the Sahaaba (R.A.), Rasulullah (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) said to them: "None of you should perform your salaah al-Asr except in Banu Quraizah."

    While the Sahaaba (R.A.) were still en-route, the time of Asr arrived. Some Sahaaba (radhiallahu anhum) felt that they should perform their Asr immediately. They regarded the instruction of Rasulullah (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) as actually being a command to proceed very swiftly to their destination. It did not imply that the Asr salaah could not be performed en-route. They thus performed their salaah there. Another group of Sahaaba (radhiallahu anhum.) viewed the instruction literally. They therefore continued and only performed their Asr salaah after having reached Banu Quraizah. Later when Rasulullah (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) was informed about this, he did not rebuke either group. [Sahih Bukhaari]

    Thus we find that the difference arose from a point of interpretation. However, this difference of interpretation is only entertained when it comes from a person who has in-depth knowledge of Deen and has attained a mastery in the Qur'an and Hadith and the other related aspects. At times a difference of opinion occurs due to the different narrations that are found with regards to a particular aspect. One Imaam gives preference to one narration on the basis of various criteria while the other Imaam, in the light of his knowledge, prefers the other narration. This is basically the manner in which these differences occur. However, just as Rasulullah (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) did not rebuke either of the two groups in the incident mentioned above, similarly since the Imaams have attained the status of a mujtahid (one who is capable of deriving the laws directly from the Qur'an and Hadith), they will not be blame worthy even if they have erred. Rasulullah (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) is reported to have said: "When a haakim (ruler) passes judgement, and after having exerted his utmost effort he arrives at the correct solution, he gets a double reward. And if he errs after having exerted his utmost ability, he gets one reward." (Bukhari vol. 2 pg. 1092). Ibn al-Munzir (R.A.) while commenting on this Hadith writes that a ruler will only get this reward if he has thorough knowledge and in the light of his knowledge he passed judgement. (see footnotes of Sahih Bukhari; ibid). The four Imaams had the ability and necessary knowledge to practice ijtihaad. Thus they fall under the ambit of this Hadith.



    Following One Imaam Only

    Another point that often comes up is the following: Why is it necessary to follow one Imaam only? Why can one not follow a certain Imaam in one aspect and another Imaam in another aspect? The simple answer to this is: On what basis will one pick and choose, especially since one does not have the knowledge required to derive the laws. Thus one will not be in a position to evaluate the deductions of each Imaam. Hence it will obviously be on the basis of what suits one. This is nothing but following one's desires — regarding which Allah Ta'ala has issued severe warnings in the Qur'an. Following one's desires sometimes even leads a person to kufr. Thus great jurists of latter times, among them Shah Waliullah (R.A.), have reaffirmed that it is wajib for the masses to follow one Imaam only.



    Authenticity of Hadith

    Here one more point needs clarification with regards to the authenticity of Ahadith. The general masses are made to believe that a Hadith is only authentic if it is related in Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim. This is a misconception. The authenticity of the Hadith is based on its chain of narrators, irrespective of whether it appears in any one of the Sihah Sitta (the famous six authentic compilations of Hadith) or in any other compilation besides these. Imaam Muslim has written in his muqqadama (introduction to Sahih Muslim) that he has not recorded every authentic Hadith in his Sahih. Actually, according to Imaam Bukhari and imaam Muslim, there are more authentic Ahadith which are not recorded in Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim than the number of narrations contained in these two books. The Hanafi madhhab is derived directly from the Qur'an and Hadith, like all the other madhhabs. However, to truly appreciate the conformity of the Hanafi madhhab with the Hadith, one will have to undertake a thorough study of the following books of Hadith: (1) Sharah Ma'anil Aathaar (2) Aljawharan Naqi (3) Nasbur Raayah (4) I'la as-Sunan (5) Bazlul Majhood (6) Fathul Mulhim (7) Awjazul Masaalik (8) Aathaarus Sunan, etc

    Topics on Taqleed and Gher Muqaalid's Rebuttal can be seen on link given below...
    http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?showforum=81

    for more information visit www.dawatetislami.net library section's Book "ja al haq" wirrten by Mufti Ahmad Yaar Kahan sahab...


    also check that! 1-) http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?showtopic=5714
    2-) http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?showtopic=897
     
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    mujhe umeed hai ke aapko apke sawalon ka jawab mil gaya hoga
     
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