na tera KHUDA koi aur hai na mera KHUDA koi aur hai...

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  1. janisp

    janisp TM Star

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    anwar bhai aap ne sahi farmaya

    ALLAH aap k ilim ko waseeh kare

    aameen
     
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  2. Bint-e-Aisha

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    HAROON BAIG BHAI AND ANWAR BAHI i totally agree with u

    meri b yehi soch he lekin shayad me utna insaaf nhi krpati is topic se jitna ap ne kiya he

    ALLAH apko jaza e kher de AMEEN

    or hr musalmaan ko samjhne ki taufeeq de

    jab ALLAH humari shehrag se qareeb he to humen usse mangne k liye kisi waseele ki zarurat nhi

    auliaye kiraam k jin naik amaal ki waja se unki izzzat ki jati he humen unko follow krna chahye na k unk mazaraat pe jaak unki qabron ko sajda ya tawaaf kiya jae mene khud aise kai mazaar dekhen hen jahan ye shirk kiya jata he

    agr hum aulia se aqeedat rakhte hen to unk liye isaal e sawaab kiya je na k shirk krkr unko b gunehgaar kiya jae qk unhone kisi ko apne peeche aisa krne ko nhi kaha or qayamat k din wo ap se puchenge k jab unhone aisa krne ko nhi kaha to q kiya

    2nd giyarwhhen ka tassawwar humen shariat me nhi milta sunnat e RASOOL me nhi QURaAN me nhi milta then how we can do it?? buzurgon k deen ki pervi kaafir kiya krte hen hum to musalmaan he na bhaiyon or behnon humen sirf ALLAH or US K RASOOL SALAHO ALEHE WAALEHE WASALLAM ki pervi krni he

    mujhe ummeed he koi meri baton ka ghalat matlab nhi nikalega

    koi ghalti ki ho ALLAH maaf kre

    lekin itna khaungi chand dinon me ap logon k samne haqeeqat ajaegi jo apko tasleem krna parega.
     
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  3. haroonbaig

    haroonbaig Newbie

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    thanx sis @ gunjan
     
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    سرفروش Senior Member

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  5. Toobi

    Toobi dhondo gy molko molko milnay k nae,nayab hum.. Hot Shot

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    very nice bhi,bht acha,keep it up bro.
     
  6. Entertainer

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    Han Meine . . . ek Sarsari si nazar dohrai he . .. . aapki guftago par . . ..
    mera jo unwaan he . .. . ussey dono ne . .. . Anwar sahib & Haroon baig saab ne shayed . . ... samgh kar nahein parha . . . . us mein koi ikhtilaaf nahein he . .. . .
    jinhein samghna tha woh samgh gaye . .. magar jo nasamagh the . .. . woh na kabhi samgh sake hein aur na kabhi samgha sakeinge . . . ISHQ k Rung ko . . ... ..
    . . . aur kuttey bhi Allah Tallah he k banaye huwey hien . . . . aur Agar Insaan . . . . kuttey se waffadari seikh le to patta he Insaan Farishta baan jayeiga . . .. . .
    aur aapne kiya kaha Ali Ali karne se kuch nahein milta he . . . .
    to Hazrat Ayeisha R.A aur Hazrat Abu Babakar Siddique kiya farmaate hein . . . . zara Mulahiza kigiye . . . . .
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  7. HaLaKOO

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    Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahe Wabarakatohu

    Sab se pehle to yeh kahna chahoonga k mujhe yeh thread daikh kar bohot herate hui aur pahle page ka pehla paragraph parh kar kuch zyada hi hairat hui k mai ne Diferent Person ko yeh to kaha nahi tha k aap is section mai aik new thread bana do aur us mai dunya jahan ki batain kar do mai ne to different bhai aap ko giyarhveen ki thread ka link dia tha wo bhi aapke kehne par aur kaha tha k agar aap is topic ki himayat mai koi baat karna chahte hain to yahan par comment de dain hamari posts parh kar kyun k jo bhai ham se is topic parh behas kar rhe the Arsalan Attari bhai Alhamdulillah wo ab kuch keh nahi pa rahe hain isliye hamari comments hi ends hain aur kaafi ho gae hain unke liye kuyun k wo sahi baat ko manne wale nahi aur unke pas ab koi doosri baat karne k liye bachi hi nahi hai isliye agar aap kuch kehna chahte hain to aap wahan apni baat k himayat mai comment de dain par aap ne to aik new thread hi bana di aur us mai bhi wo batain nahi ki jo aap ne wada kia tha iskey gawah bhi mai paish kar sakta hoon jo us waqt chat box mai the MALIK IMRAN aur ZULQARNAIN inke ialawa bhi kuch log honge par mai in dono ko yahan paish kar sakta hoon k baat kia hui thi aur aap ne usay kia kar dia aur phir keh rahe hain k wadey k mutabiq mojood hoon waah kia baat hai apki…..

    Different person aap kehna kia chah rahe hain pahle is baat ki wazahat kar dain mai yeh isliye keh rha hoon k aap ne koi aik topic par baat nahi ki aap ne dunya jahan ki batain kar di hain jo kisi bhi debate aur manazare k usoolon k khilaaf hai aap pehle to koi aik topic choose karain k kis topic par aapney baat karni hai phir insha Allah ham us par aap k saath dalayel se baat karainge lekin mai fil haal aapki taraf se ki gai baton ki mukhtasar jaawab dena zaroori samjhoonga….

    Aap ne jo aik aurat ka waqia bayan kia hai k aurat ne biryani banai aur bachon mai baant di mere bhai hamara deen mai aisi koi cheez nahi milti k kuch bhi khaane ki cheez banao aur us par surah fatiha parh kar logon ko khila do yeh kisi bhi Quran shareef ki ayat aur na hi kisi hadees mai iska koi proof milta hai ab mere par yeh label na laga daina k mai ne nauzubillah surah fatiha ko manne se inkaar kar dia hai. Baat yeh hai k ham apni marzi se deen mai koi naya amal nahi kar sakte aur hamare pyare aur mukammal deen mai aisi koi baat nahi milti to kyun k yeh kaamil deen hai isliye beshak bazaahir bara naik lagne wala amal bhi jahannum mai lejane ka baais ban jaaega jis se hame parhaiz karna chahiye kyun har naya amal jo pehle deen mai nahi thaw o bidat hai aur har bidaat gumraahi hai aur har gumraahi jahannum mai le jane wali hai….

    Mere bhole bhaale seedhe saadhe bhai aapko misaal dena nahi aati to aap ney yeh napaak aur najis jaanwar kutte ki misaal kyun di us janwar ko aap ne Ashraful maqhlooqat se mila diya hai jis k baray mai hai k agar yeh ghar mai ho to rahmat k farishte ghar mai daakhil nahi hote aur agar wo bartan maim uh daal day to bartan napaak ho jaae aur jisay har zeeshaoor musalmaan touch hone se katraata hai ap ki soch ki daad doon aap ne us najis jaanwar ki misaal itne hissaas aur religious topic mai de di kia baat hai aapki…

    Mere bhai different person aap ne jo Hazrat Adam AS ka waqia bayan kia hai yeh aap se meri humble request hai k is baat ko kisi hadees yaa Quran shareef ki kisi ayaat se saabit kar dain plzz k Hazrat Adam AS ne jannat k darwaze par Kalma tayyaba parha tha aur phir jab jannat se nikale gae to us kalme ka waseela de dia ho aap search karain phir saabit karain lekin aik baat bata doon aap nahi saabit kar sakte kyun k aisi koi baat hame deen mai milti hi nahi to mai aap se yehi kahoonga k Quroone Uoola aur paighambaraat k waqiaat ko quote karne se pehle bohot achi tarha thoroughly concept clear kar lia karain k kahin koi ghalti to nahi ho jaae suni sunai baton ko aage mat pohonchaya karain, aapke sabooot ka wait karoonga…

    Wasilay par aap nay bohot si baatain ki hain aur aik dunyawi misaal bhi di hai k agar kisi ko kaam karana hota hai to wo DCO k dost se hi karwa laita hai aur wo DCO ka dost aapka bhi dost hai aur aapko DCO se milne ki koi zaroorat nahi hai waah wwaaaaaaaah !!
    Mere bhai jaan aap ne yeh do takey k dunyawi ikhtiaar rakhne wale DCO ki jis ki koi haisiat aur auqaat hi nahi hai usay Allah rabbul izzat aur Allah wahdahu laashareek se mila diya hai jis k ikhtiaraat mai koi kami nahi aur na hi usay koi poochne wala hai. mere bhai aap aik jagah kehte ho k Allah Talah hamari shehrag se qareeb hai aur doosri taraf apni isi baat ko ghalat keh rahe ho k jab aapka kaam DCO k aur aapke mushtariqa dost se ho jaae to aapko DCO se koi rabta rakhne ki zaroorat nahi aapki baat se yeh matlab nikalta hai k nauzubillah jab hamara kaam yeh buzurgaane deen se ho jaae aur hamari dili muraad poori ho jaae kyun k yeh Allah k qareeb hain isliye inkay mazaraat par jaa kar maang lo aur phir Allah k saamne jhukne aur Allah se mangne ki koi zaroorat nahi hai kia bat hai aapki janab.. Allah jo shahrag se zyada qareeb hai us se mangne mai masla hai aur koson door aur hazaron kilometer ka safar kar k auliaa karaam k mazaron par jaa kar matha taik do par panch time namaz mai Allah k aagay sajda na karna kyun k direct to DCO bhi nahi sunta to Allah bhi nahi sunega Nauzubillah summa nauzubillah astaghfirullah…

    TM Members mai Yahan aik baat karay baghair nahi rah sakta k baraye meharbaani kisi bhi topic ko parhe baghair jazak Allah aur masha Allah jaise behtareen kalmaat mat ada kar dia Karin plz thora time nikaal kar post ko parh bhi lia karain kyun k islam section mai hone wali har baat par jazak Allah aur masha Allah kehna kisi kitaab mai nahi likha.

    Allah Talah se Dua hai k Allah Hame deen ki samajh boojh ata farmaye Aameen.
     
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  8. zulqarnain

    zulqarnain ~ A Man Of Two Ages ~ VIP

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    very good junaid bhai.....
     
  9. zulqarnain

    zulqarnain ~ A Man Of Two Ages ~ VIP

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    gunjan sis....

    sorry agar meri baat aapko buri lagy to...

    but sis plz explain kardo k kon log mizaaraat per sajda(maazALLAH) ya tawaaf karty hain??

    coz main neapni poori zindagi na hi aisa dekha na parha aur na hi suna hai...

    hope k aap dalaail k sath apni baat zahir karein gi...

    ~Shukriya~

    ~ALLAH HAFIZ~
     
  10. SaRkaR

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    mere bhai aap ne ye jo b kaha hai is main aap ne jo topic tha us pe tu baat hi nahi ki...aap ne sirf kutte aur maalik ki misaalein hi di.......aisa nahi hona chaeye tha...mera sirf ye sawal hai aap mujey kahein se b sabit kar dein k kabi SAHABA KIRAAM NE GIYARVEE KI?ya koi aur issi kisam k kaam matlab sherni waghaira...main ye apne knowledg k lye poch raha hoon..
    aur dosra mujey aap ki is baat pe sakht etraaz hai k aap ne likha k jis AAL-E-NABI ko pa liya us ne khuda ko pa liya..is ki wazaat karein gein?
    aur ager aaenda is topic pe kuch kehna ho tu idher udher ki baton ki bajae sirf aur sirf topic pe baat karein wo b hawalajaat k sath..merhbani ho gi aap ki..
    aur baqi member se guzarish hai k KHUDARA pehle read kar lya kerein k kya likha hai us k baad JAZAKALLAH kahein..
     
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  11. zulqarnain

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    nice malik bhai....

    aapki last wali baat se main agree karta hoon k pehly poori post parhni chahiye phir comments deny chahiye....
     
  12. Bint-e-Aisha

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    AP JAO ABI INTERIOR SINDH ek ek mazar pe apko kai proves mil jaenge

    me matric me school ki taraf se gayi thi interior sindh

    hum shah abdul latif k mazaar pe gaye

    aurat ko qabron k paas nhi jana chahye isliye me andar nhi gayi magar aihate se mujhe mazar k andar ka scene nazar araha tha log wahan unki qabar mubarak pe ankhen laga k peshani laga k choom rahe the or phr qabar ka ek round laga kr peeth unki qabar pe kiye bagher bahar nikal rahe the

    kiya ye shai he

    saudia jaen or ROZA E RASOOL ki hazri den wahan jo koi dua k liye hath uthata he to wahan k guards bidat bidat chillate hen or mana krte hen

    agr iski ijazat hotti to sab se pehle wahin hum ye scene dekhte krte or apni aulaad se krwate

    magr jo cheez ALLAH k HABIB SALLALLAHO ALEHE WASSLAM k roze pe nhi horahi to aulia ki qubur pe q??

    kiya unka rutba NABI SALLALLAHO ALEHE WASSLAM se ziada uncha he??

    mana k saudia me kafi ikhlaqi buraiyaan hen magr BAITULLAH n ROZA E RASOOL pe aapko aisi koi cheez nhi milegi jisme shirk ho ya bidat
     
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  13. haroonbaig

    haroonbaig Newbie

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    Gunjan iz right n i m from Multan, whom people used to say Madina-tul-oliya (City of saints) n Multan Shareef, visit Multan n u will find lot of proof of ur question in different tombs. @ Zulqarnain
     
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  14. zulqarnain

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    bro main aksar hi multan aata hoon....humein dukaan k liye maal lena hota hai wahan se ...

    but main ne aj tak nahi dekhai aisa kuchh jahaan sajda kiya ja raha ho ya tawaaf ho....

    but inshaALLAH is baar ghor se sub kuchh observe karo ga...

    shukriya
     
  15. janisp

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    Great gunjan

    1 baat ladies ko mazar per jana manah nahi hai
    us ka tareeqa yeh hai k aap jis mazar per jao wahan per aap dupate ya chadar main na jao wahan aap full parda kar k jao

    JAB HAZRAT AEYSA (R.A.A) AAP (S.A.W.W) K ROZE PER HAZRAT UMAR KI WAFAT SE PEHLE JATI THI TO WOH PARDA NAHI KARTI THI OR JAB HAZRAT UMAR KI WAFAT HOI TO WO COMPLETE PARDA KARI THI

    yeh main ne 1 AALIM se JUMAA MUBARAK k khutbe main suna tha

    (WALLAH-O-AALAM-WA-RASOOL-O-AALAM)


    aap sahi kah rahe ho dear
     
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  16. zulqarnain

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    moved in right section...{(baby2})
     
  17. haroonbaig

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    plz quote proper reference from Quran or Hadith (SAW). This statement cannot b accepted that i have heard from a friend of mine or in a lecture etc. @ Janisp
     
  18. Bint-e-Aisha

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    ALLAH sab ko hidayat de
     
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  19. janisp

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    dear main yeh nahi keh raha k me ne kisi friend se suna hai me ne 1 AALIM se suna hai JUMAA MUBARAK k KHUTBEY main aap ko pata hoga k JUMAA MUBARAK main kitni awaam hoti hai un main AALIM b hote hain or muje ISLAM k bare main jo baat pochni hoti hai main un se poochta hoon
     
  20. haroonbaig

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    dear janisp!
    pehli bat men nay ye nahe kaha k aap nay friend ki bat quote ki, men nay misal di thee aur dosri bat ye k kai baten ham bhi juma k khutba aur different lectures men suntay hen likn behtareen tareeqa yahi hai k ham us ka reference dhoond len ya juma k bad ya kisi aur lecture k bad un alim ya scholar say poch len ta k next time kahen quote kartay howay hamary pas proper grounds hon.

    JazakAllah Khair
     
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