Kia Eid Milad un Nabi Biddat hai?

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عید میلاد النبیﷺ بدعت ہے۔ اس کے بدعت ہونے پر تو کسی کو کوئی اختلاف ہی نہیں ہے۔ فرق صرف اتنا ہے کہ بعض لوگ کہتے ہیں کہ یہ عید نہیں ہے اور نہ ہی مسلمانوں کو مروجہ طریقہ کار کے تحت اس کو بطور عید منانا چاہئے۔ اور ان کا دعویٰ ہوتا ہے کہ عید صرف وہ ہے جس کا ثبوت قرآن، حدیث سے ہو۔ جبکہ بعض لوگ جو بدعت کو اچھا سمجھتے وہ اس دن کو بطور عید اپنے ایجاد کی ہوئے طریقہ کے تحت مناتے ہیں۔ یعنی مسلمانوں کی تین عیدوں کا عقیدہ رکھتے ہیں۔ اور اس کا کو اسلامی کام سمجھتے ہیں اور بہت بڑی عبادت بھی۔
غرض جو بھی ہے عید میلاد النبی ﷺ کے بدعت ہونے میں کسی کو کوئی شبہ نہیں ہے بلکہ اگر آپ لوگ مبالغہ نا سمجھیں تو میں یہ کہہ سکتا ہوں کے عید میلاد النبی ﷺ کا بدعت ہونے میں ایک طرح سے اجماع ہے۔ جس کا کوئی بھی منکر نہیں۔​
 

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عید میلاد النبیﷺ بدعت ہے۔ اس کے بدعت ہونے پر تو کسی کو کوئی اختلاف ہی نہیں ہے۔ فرق صرف اتنا ہے کہ بعض لوگ کہتے ہیں کہ یہ عید نہیں ہے اور نہ ہی مسلمانوں کو مروجہ طریقہ کار کے تحت اس کو بطور عید منانا چاہئے۔ اور ان کا دعویٰ ہوتا ہے کہ عید صرف وہ ہے جس کا ثبوت قرآن، حدیث سے ہو۔ جبکہ بعض لوگ جو بدعت کو اچھا سمجھتے وہ اس دن کو بطور عید اپنے ایجاد کی ہوئے طریقہ کے تحت مناتے ہیں۔ یعنی مسلمانوں کی تین عیدوں کا عقیدہ رکھتے ہیں۔ اور اس کا کو اسلامی کام سمجھتے ہیں اور بہت بڑی عبادت بھی۔
غرض جو بھی ہے عید میلاد النبی ﷺ کے بدعت ہونے میں کسی کو کوئی شبہ نہیں ہے بلکہ اگر آپ لوگ مبالغہ نا سمجھیں تو میں یہ کہہ سکتا ہوں کے عید میلاد النبی ﷺ کا بدعت ہونے میں ایک طرح سے اجماع ہے۔ جس کا کوئی بھی منکر نہیں۔​
Aap ne jo bhi kehna hai aap keh sakte ho bila jhijhak kahiye
agar aap haq per ho to koi kuch bhi samajh le haq ki baat
kehte rahiye aap : )
 
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mashAllah apne 2 ayaten suna ker or ayaten bhi woh ke jis main milaad or jishn manane ka koi zikar tak nhi lekin un ayaton per apna amal zabardasti thop ker un logon ko jahil or ilm hasil karne ko keh dya jin logon ne har baat quran o hadith ke reference se ki mujhe herat hoti hai yar log jis Muhammad SAW se itni muhabbat or aqeedat ka dawa kar rahe hote hain woh log phir aise kaam kaise kar lete hain ke jis kaam ko Muhammad SAW ne na khud kabi kya balke logon ko bhi roka or maze ki baat yeh ke jis amal main Nabi SAW ki razamandi hi nhi hum ussi amal ko kar ke Nabi SAW ko khush kar rahe hote hain or yaqin b kr rhe hote hain ke Nabi SAW hamare is amal se khush b horha hoga?yeh agar Muhammad SAW se muhabbat hai to phir yeh kesi muhabbat hai yar jo ussi Muhammad SAW ke bataye hoye raste per chalne hi nhi deti? is tarha to phir main bhi apni maa se boht muhabbat karta hon meri maa kehti hai beta namaz parha karo ramzan ke roze rakha karo bure logon ke sath mat phiro or jo naseehaten main krti hon us pe amal kya karo lekin main kuch nhi karta maa ke kahe hoye kisi farman per amal nhi karta lekin ek kaam main karta hon
jhoom jhoom ker apni maa ki tareefen karta hon or saal main ek din unka janam din kyunke janam din to sal main ek bar hi ata hai na woh main bohot josh o kharosh se manata hon
to kya maine muhabbat ka haq ada krdya?
 

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Aye imaan walon ALLAH aur uske Rasool(saww)se
aage na barha karo aur ALLAH se darte raho
beshak ALLAH sunne wala khoob jaanne wala hai

Quran surat al Hijraat,ayat#01

Aap farma dein agar tum ALLAH se mohabbat
karte ho to meri perwi karo tab ALLAH tumhen
mehboob bana lega aur tumhare liye tumhare
gunah maaf farma dega aur ALLAH nihayat
bakhshne wala mehrban hai

Quran surat al Imran ayat#31

kya MOHAMMAD saww ki pairwi me eid milad un nabi a.s ka jashn aata hai ??
kya aaj aap jo tafseer ayaat ki peish kar rahe ho woh kisi hadeeth se kar rahe ho ??
agar nahin to aap ko ALLAH ke habeeb saww ke hadeeth ke mutabiq kaafir kaha gaya hai
agar haan to woh ahadeeth kahan hain ??
aur AAP saww ki pairwi me teesri eid nahin hai so jo ALLAH se mohabbat karta hai
uski do eidein hain aur jo gumraah hai wo 3 nahin 30 ya 300 bhi mana sakta hai

ye mera kiya huwe tarajim nahin balke eid milad un nabi manane walon ka karda ttarajim hain
ke ALLAH ke Rasool saww se aage na barha karo unhone do eiden manaiy
hum ne do manani hain unhone 5 waqt farz parhi hum ne 5 parhni hai
unhone ramadhan me farz roze rakhe hum ne ramdhan me farz roze rakhne hain
unhone unke Sahaba a.s ki pairwi ka kaha so unke Sahaba a.s ne Eid milad un nabi saww nahin manaya
hum bhi nahin manayengen lekin jisne in sub ke baad bhi manana hai uski marzi
guzaarish itni hi hai ke ise HISSA E ISLAM na qaraar diiya jaaye

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kindly hazrat molana ashraf ali thanvi sahab RA k hawalay say eid meladun nabi ko jaiez qarar na day...ye sara sar biddat h...q k 12 rabi ul awal Rasool khuda k wasal ka din h,na k unki pedaiseh hay..islam may salgirah manana sara sar mana h,chahay wo kise ki b ho,ye sab biddat h...
 
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....@Mehreen12123 aapke 3 posts TM staff ki janib se delete kiye gaye hain jiski wajah yeh thi ke
aap ne unme koi Quran o ahadeeth ke mutabiq baat nahin ki thi aur doosre firqon pe tanqeed bhi ki thi
aap ko agar lagta hai Eid Milad Nabi alaehe salam jaaiyz hai to ise Quran o ahadeeth hi se sabit karen
kyunke ISLAM me yehi qabil e qabool hain aur is forum me bhi agar koi sawal ho to aap pooch sakte ho

shukria !!

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عید میلاد النبیﷺ بدعت ہے۔ اس کے بدعت ہونے پر تو کسی کو کوئی اختلاف ہی نہیں ہے۔ فرق صرف اتنا ہے کہ بعض لوگ کہتے ہیں کہ یہ عید نہیں ہے اور نہ ہی مسلمانوں کو مروجہ طریقہ کار کے تحت اس کو بطور عید منانا چاہئے۔ اور ان کا دعویٰ ہوتا ہے کہ عید صرف وہ ہے جس کا ثبوت قرآن، حدیث سے ہو۔ جبکہ بعض لوگ جو بدعت کو اچھا سمجھتے وہ اس دن کو بطور عید اپنے ایجاد کی ہوئے طریقہ کے تحت مناتے ہیں۔ یعنی مسلمانوں کی تین عیدوں کا عقیدہ رکھتے ہیں۔ اور اس کا کو اسلامی کام سمجھتے ہیں اور بہت بڑی عبادت بھی۔
غرض جو بھی ہے عید میلاد النبی ﷺ کے بدعت ہونے میں کسی کو کوئی شبہ نہیں ہے بلکہ اگر آپ لوگ مبالغہ نا سمجھیں تو میں یہ کہہ سکتا ہوں کے عید میلاد النبی ﷺ کا بدعت ہونے میں ایک طرح سے اجماع ہے۔ جس کا کوئی بھی منکر نہیں۔​
eid lifz waeed say nikla hy jis ka mtlib khushi manana hy
is k agy ap khud smjhdar ho
 

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Assalaam O Alaikum,

Praise Be To Allah

"Celebrating The Birthday Of The Prophet Is A Bidah" Book by Abu Ammaar Saeed Ahmed
Let us properly understand the Kalimah first.

There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger of God.

Do you know what "Ilaah" means? Majority Muslims does not know the true meaning. Let us get into details of "Ilaah". According to Majority of Muslims, "Ilaah" means, idols, worship other objects, grave etc. But shaitan made them forget about other meanings of "Ilaah". It also means who you listen or obey to and who do you follow guidelines or suggestions or footsteps. One of the worst "Ilaah" is, it is inside a humanbeing itself it is your "Nafs" and that is also a shirk. Anyone follow their desires is a part of shirk. Example a knowledge person ask you to do this, but you will simply do what ever YOU like. Thats following a "Nafs". It is mentioned in the several place in

Quran 12:53

"Nor do I absolve my own self (of blame): the (human soul) certainly prone to evil, unless my Lord do bestow His Mercy: but surely my Lord is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (53)" Shaitan can appear in any form, his main concern is to divert you from straight path which goes to jannah to Hell".

How does shaitan do that? He is a smart enemy, and knows what humanbeing loves to do and that is entertainment and the things that pleases a humanbeing. He comes to you in form of a Maulana or scholar offering or suggesting or issuing Fatawa about something which is already prohibited in Islam, and comes to you with justified answers. Justified answers like Ibees did when Allah asked Shaitan to prostrate Adam but shaitan started giving justified answers rather then jsut bowing down. But he didnt realize that it is Allah who commanded that and only Allah has the right to legislate and no other being. Because of arguing with Allah and giving justified answers and for not obeying, he was rejected by Allah till the end of time.

Iblees got more angry and asked Allah for a complete freewill permission to what ever he wants in the world.

Quran 7:16-18

He said: "Because thou hast thrown me out of the Way, lo! I will lie in wait for them on Thy straight Way. (16)
"Then will I assault them from before them and behind them, from their right and their left: nor wilt Thou find, in most of them, gratitude (for Thy mercies). (17) (Allah) said: "Get out from this, disgraced and expelled. If any of them follow thee Hell will I fill with you all. (18)
His permission was granted. What is his main target, to divert the faith from Allah to something else. Shaitan is very smart, he knew humanbeings will not completely able to divert the faith. Three sins are not forgiven by Allah

Shirk
Kufr
Bidah

Now who ever said the Kalimah, shaitan trap Muslims in Bidah. Bidah is backstab of shaitan any regular or ordinary Muslim cannot identify that unless he has knpowledge if Islam. Shaitan knew the Muslims will not directly fall into something against Islam, but shaitan used a weapon, that is called Bidah in the name of Allah and Prophet. Because shaitan knew every Muslim loves the Prophet and will do anything in the name of the Prophet.
But as Ibees didn't paid attention the first commandment of Allah similarly Muslims forgot the actual message of Quran and Sunnah. What does the Quran say about this.

Quran 3:31
"Say, [O Muhammad], ‘If you should love Allaah, then follow me, [So] Allaah will love you and forgive you your sins.’ (31)"

Quran 7:3
"Follow, [O Mankind], what has been revealed to you from your Lord and do not follow other than Him any allies. Little do you remember. (3)"

Quran 6:153
"Verily, this is My Way leading straight: follow it: follow not (other) paths: they will scatter you about from His path: thus doth He command you, that ye may be righteous. (153)"

The best verse to close the chapter of entire Islam is

Quran 5:3
".....This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed my favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion....."

The above verse is a fullstop, period of Islam and nothing left to teach anything else except to just practice according Quran and Sunnah.

Let us look at the story of Shaitan and Adam. First commandment of Allah to Adam was not to eat the fruit of the tree. How did shaitan deceived Adam, did he asked Adam directly to eat fruit No. Iblees used "Allah's" name to deceive him that Allah doesnt want you to eat the fruit so you wont go close to Allah. Now the point is every creation wants to be near to Allah. This is the weapon used by shaitan to deceive the Adam. He said you will be close to Allah if you eat the fruit, and Adam got convinced with his cunning words, but didnt realize and forgot the first commanment of Allah and shaitan succeeded and made Adam thrown out of Jannah.
What does the hadith say about this, the prophet in almost every lecture and almost Khutba use to say.

"Wa sharrul Umoori Muhdathaatuhaa, Wa kulla Bid'atin dhaialah, wa kulla dhalatin fin-naar" (Sahih Muslim).
Translation of the above Hadith, Every innovation is a misguidance and every misguidance goes to Hell fire" (Muslim)

The prophet clearly stated already NO MATTER WHAT GOOD DEEDS YOU DO, TO PLEASE ALLAH AND PROPHET, if it is not matching Quran or Sunnah, simply you end up in hellfire.

Hadith

“Whoever innovates anything in this matter of ours (i.e., Islaam), that is not part of it will have it rejected.” (Bukhari & Muslim)

“Whoever does anything that is not in accordance with this matter of ours (i.e., Islaam), will have it rejected.”(Muslim)

“I urge you to follow my Sunnah and the way of the rightly-guided khaleefahs after me; adhere to it and cling to it firmly. Beware of newly-invented things, for every newly-invented thing is an innovation (Bid‘ah) and every innovation is a going-astray.” (Ahmad & Tirmidhi)

“Whoever innovates anything in this matter of ours (i.e., Islaam), that is not part of it will have it rejected.” (Bukhari)

Now we can understand from Quran and Sunnah, it was not done during the time of the Prophet.
Who started this and based on what.

This ritual was first start after the three centuries of Islam by Shia Faatimids. The next person to do this after them and re-introduce it was King Al-Mudhaffar Abu Sa‘eed Kawkaboori, the king of Irbil, at the end of the sixth century or the beginning of the seventh century AH, as was mentioned by the historians such as Ibn Khalkaan, may Allaah have mercy upon him, and others.

Abu Shaamah, may Allaah have mercy upon him, said:

“The first person to do that in Mosul was Shaykh ‘Umar Ibn Muhammad Al-Malaa, one of the well-known righteous people. Then the ruler of Irbil and others followed his example.”

Ibn Katheer, may Allaah have mercy upon him, said in his biography of Abu Sa’eed Kazkaboori:

“He used to observe the Mawlid in Rabee’ Al-Awwal and hold a huge celebration on that occasion… some of those who were present at the feast of Al-Muzaffar on some occasions of the Mawlid said that he used to offer in the feast five thousand grilled heads of sheep, ten thousand chickens and one hundred thousand large dishes, and thirty trays of sweets… he would let the Sufis sing from Dhuhr until Fajr, and he himself would dance with them.”

Ibn Khalkaan, may Allaah have mercy upon him, said:

“When it is the first of Safar they decorate those domes with various kinds of fancy adornments, and in every dome there sits a group of singers and a group of puppeteers and players of musical instruments, and they do not leave any one of those domes without setting up a group (of performers) there. The people give up work during this period, and they do no work except for going around and watching the entertainment. When there are two days to go until the Mawlid, they bring out a large number of camels, cows and sheep, more than can be described, and they accompany them with all the drums, songs and musical instruments that they have, until they bring them to the square… On the night of the Mawlid there are performances of nasheed after Maghrib in the citadel.”

So, this is the origin of this celebration on the occasion of the Prophet’s birthday. More recently idle entertainment, extravagance, and wasting of money and time have become associated with an innovation for which Allaah has not sent down any authority.

How many Muslims know this, 12 Rabi Al Awwal is not an actual date of birth and there are different opinions by different scholars. But the truth is he was born on Monday and died on Monday and his death is correct on 12 Rabi Al Awwal.

Let us put our self on Adam and put scholars (misguiding) as shaitan in human face, allowing you to do it, but the authentic Quran and Sunnah says no. All these misguiding scholars do not want to accept the truth, becasue of arrogance and proud and respect before the public and they keep giving justified answers to prove their points.

If we realize the Sahabas didnt celebrated nor Tabiyon nor next generation. It was started by Shias, not the Sahabas or Successors. Ask yourself a question, does christians celebrate 25 Dec, yes they celebrate birth of Prophet Jesus, and that wasnt even the true date of the Jesus either.

The Prophet said already not raise him like the christians did to Jesus

“Do not extol me as the Christians extolled the son of Maryam. For I am just His slave, so call me the slave of Allaah and His Messenger” (Bukhari)

“Whoever imitates a people is one of them” (Ahmad, Abu Dawood).

“Be different from the mushrikeen (polytheists)” (Muslim)

Now the question is why people do that, they do that to show they love the prophet too much, but thats not obeying the prophet, it is going against the Sunnah. Imagine Prophet was alive, would He like it what people do , dancing, programs, wasting money, naats, stage shows etc the answer is clealy NO. Muslims claim to love the prophet but lifestyle is against the Sunnah.

They dance, but do not pray 5 times, they waste lot of money, but true steps of the prophet is to spend on poor and homeless kids, need food and clothing. They waste money on gatherings but look at the homeless poor kids without parents on streets of pakistan. Rich people arrange shows on the day but spend millions to give to poor and give home and food and clothing to poor old parents who are thrown out of homes by their families.

Major group leaders that celebrate the birth of the prophet is "Tahir Ul Qadri" and "Ilyas Qadri". Please do realize they are shaitans in human face to decieve innocent public of no proper knowledge of true teachings of the Quran and Sunnah. Do not get convince by these shaitans, Saudia has banned these scholars to speech in Saudia, because they are innovators.ave ourself from these shaitans.Quran with understanding and get the knowledge of Hadith.

Quran 6:153

"Verily, this is My Way leading straight: follow it: follow not (other) paths: they will scatter you about from His path: thus doth He command you, that ye may be righteous. (153)"

In more understanding,

You are driving on a highway going straight to your destination, during your drive, you see many exits on the highway going towards towns and cities. On each exit off the highway, shaitan is standing there calling you to come to me i will show you short cut to your destination.

How can we identify the shaitan in human face, do realize, this shaitan will have beard, pious, maulana, scholar, performed many Hajjs, have lot of barakah in his hands. 1000s of people like him and listen to him and follow him and accept him.

But the bottom line is we forgot what the Prophet said, do not get off the highway and stay on highway to reach the destination. How can we stick to the Sunnah.

Read the Quran with understanding and learn about sahih Hadith and learn to differentiate the ahadith and do not follow anyone no matter what or famous scholar is he. This is the only way you will be saved Inshallah.
So who ever were celebrating the the birth date, please ask Tauba from Allah , that you will not do it nor you will join, and help you to give you Hidaaya towards right path.

And Allah Knows Best

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jazakallah....
i never knw about its origin.....

one thing.... please if you can make all your posts in URDU.
because your posts are really informative and it should be for eveyone....
keep sharing please
 
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